The Problem of Population Decline (ft. Georgina Kiss-Kozma)

Mark Bauerlein October 13, 2025

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In the latest installment of the ongoing interview series with contributing editor Mark Bauerlein, Georgina Kiss-Kozma joins in to discuss her work with the Youth Research Institute in Budapest.

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Mark Bauerlein is contributing editor at First Things.

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