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Manhattan Declaration: A Call of Christian Conscience

Preamble

Christians are heirs of a 2,000-year tradition of proclaiming God’s word, seeking justice in our societies, resisting tyranny, and reaching out with compassion to the poor, oppressed and suffering.

While fully acknowledging the imperfections and shortcomings of Christian institutions and communities in all ages, we claim the heritage of those Christians who defended innocent life by rescuing discarded babies from trash heaps in Roman cities and publicly denouncing the Empire’s sanctioning of infanticide. We remember with reverence those believers who sacrificed their lives by remaining in Roman cities to tend the sick and dying during the plagues, and who died bravely in the coliseums rather than deny their Lord.

After the barbarian tribes overran Europe, Christian monasteries preserved not only the Bible but also the literature and art of Western culture. It was Christians who combated the evil of slavery: Papal edicts in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries decried the practice of slavery and first excommunicated anyone involved in the slave trade; evangelical Christians in England, led by John Wesley and William Wilberforce, put an end to the slave trade in that country. Christians under Wilberforce’s leadership also formed hundreds of societies for helping the poor, the imprisoned, and child laborers chained to machines.

In Europe, Christians challenged the divine claims of kings and successfully fought to establish the rule of law and balance of governmental powers, which made modern democracy possible. And in America, Christian women stood at the vanguard of the suffrage movement. The great civil rights crusades of the 1950s and 60s were led by Christians claiming the Scriptures and asserting the glory of the image of God in every human being regardless of race, religion, age or class.

This same devotion to human dignity has led Christians in the last decade to work to end the dehumanizing scourge of human trafficking and sexual slavery, bring compassionate care to AIDS sufferers in Africa, and assist in a myriad of other human rights causes—from providing clean water in developing nations to providing homes for tens of thousands of children orphaned by war, disease and gender discrimination.

Like those who have gone before us in the faith, Christians today are called to proclaim the Gospel of costly grace, to protect the intrinsic dignity of the human person and to stand for the common good. In being true to its own calling, the call to discipleship, the church through service to others can make a profound contribution to the public good.

Declaration

We, as Orthodox, Catholic, and Evangelical Christians, have gathered, beginning in New York on September 28, 2009, to make the following declaration, which we sign as individuals, not on behalf of our organizations, but speaking to and from our communities. We act together in obedience to the one true God, the triune God of holiness and love, who has laid total claim on our lives and by that claim calls us with believers in all ages and all nations to seek and defend the good of all who bear his image. We set forth this declaration in light of the truth that is grounded in Holy Scripture, in natural human reason (which is itself, in our view, the gift of a beneficent God), and in the very nature of the human person. We call upon all people of goodwill, believers and non-believers alike, to consider carefully and reflect critically on the issues we here address as we, with St. Paul, commend this appeal to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God.

While the whole scope of Christian moral concern, including a special concern for the poor and vulnerable, claims our attention, we are especially troubled that in our nation today the lives of the unborn, the disabled, and the elderly are severely threatened; that the institution of marriage, already buffeted by promiscuity, infidelity and divorce, is in jeopardy of being redefined to accommodate fashionable ideologies; that freedom of religion and the rights of conscience are gravely jeopardized by those who would use the instruments of coercion to compel persons of faith to compromise their deepest convictions.

Because the sanctity of human life, the dignity of marriage as a union of husband and wife, and the freedom of conscience and religion are foundational principles of justice and the common good, we are compelled by our Christian faith to speak and act in their defense. In this declaration we affirm: 1) the profound, inherent, and equal dignity of every human being as a creature fashioned in the very image of God, possessing inherent rights of equal dignity and life; 2) marriage as a conjugal union of man and woman, ordained by God from the creation, and historically understood by believers and non-believers alike, to be the most basic institution in society and; 3) religious liberty, which is grounded in the character of God, the example of Christ, and the inherent freedom and dignity of human beings created in the divine image.

We are Christians who have joined together across historic lines of ecclesial differences to affirm our right—and, more importantly, to embrace our obligation—to speak and act in defense of these truths. We pledge to each other, and to our fellow believers, that no power on earth, be it cultural or political, will intimidate us into silence or acquiescence. It is our duty to proclaim the Gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in its fullness, both in season and out of season. May God help us not to fail in that duty.

Life

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Genesis 1:27

I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. John 10:10

Although public sentiment has moved in a pro-life direction, we note with sadness that pro-abortion ideology prevails today in our government. The present administration is led and staffed by those who want to make abortions legal at any stage of fetal development, and who want to provide abortions at taxpayer expense. Majorities in both houses of Congress hold pro-abortion views. The Supreme Court, whose infamous 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade stripped the unborn of legal protection, continues to treat elective abortion as a fundamental constitutional right, though it has upheld as constitutionally permissible some limited restrictions on abortion. The President says that he wants to reduce the “need” for abortion—a commendable goal. But he has also pledged to make abortion more easily and widely available by eliminating laws prohibiting government funding, requiring waiting periods for women seeking abortions, and parental notification for abortions performed on minors. The elimination of these important and effective pro-life laws cannot reasonably be expected to do other than significantly increase the number of elective abortions by which the lives of countless children are snuffed out prior to birth. Our commitment to the sanctity of life is not a matter of partisan loyalty, for we recognize that in the thirty-six years since Roe v. Wade, elected officials and appointees of both major political parties have been complicit in giving legal sanction to what Pope John Paul II described as “the culture of death.” We call on all officials in our country, elected and appointed, to protect and serve every member of our society, including the most marginalized, voiceless, and vulnerable among us.

A culture of death inevitably cheapens life in all its stages and conditions by promoting the belief that lives that are imperfect, immature or inconvenient are discardable. As predicted by many prescient persons, the cheapening of life that began with abortion has now metastasized. For example, human embryo-destructive research and its public funding are promoted in the name of science and in the cause of developing treatments and cures for diseases and injuries. The President and many in Congress favor the expansion of embryo- research to include the taxpayer funding of so-called “therapeutic cloning.” This would result in the industrial mass production of human embryos to be killed for the purpose of producing genetically customized stem cell lines and tissues. At the other end of life, an increasingly powerful movement to promote assisted suicide and “voluntary” euthanasia threatens the lives of vulnerable elderly and disabled persons. Eugenic notions such as the doctrine of lebensunwertes Leben (“life unworthy of life”) were first advanced in the 1920s by intellectuals in the elite salons of America and Europe. Long buried in ignominy after the horrors of the mid-twentieth century, they have returned from the grave. The only difference is that now the doctrines of the eugenicists are dressed up in the language of “liberty,” “autonomy,” and “choice.”

We will be united and untiring in our efforts to roll back the license to kill that began with the abandonment of the unborn to abortion. We will work, as we have always worked, to bring assistance, comfort, and care to pregnant women in need and to those who have been victimized by abortion, even as we stand resolutely against the corrupt and degrading notion that it can somehow be in the best interests of women to submit to the deliberate killing of their unborn children. Our message is, and ever shall be, that the just, humane, and truly Christian answer to problem pregnancies is for all of us to love and care for mother and child alike.

A truly prophetic Christian witness will insistently call on those who have been entrusted with temporal power to fulfill the first responsibility of government: to protect the weak and vulnerable against violent attack, and to do so with no favoritism, partiality, or discrimination. The Bible enjoins us to defend those who cannot defend themselves, to speak for those who cannot themselves speak. And so we defend and speak for the unborn, the disabled, and the dependent. What the Bible and the light of reason make clear, we must make clear. We must be willing to defend, even at risk and cost to ourselves and our institutions, the lives of our brothers and sisters at every stage of development and in every condition.

Our concern is not confined to our own nation. Around the globe, we are witnessing cases of genocide and “ethnic cleansing,” the failure to assist those who are suffering as innocent victims of war, the neglect and abuse of children, the exploitation of vulnerable laborers, the sexual trafficking of girls and young women, the abandonment of the aged, racial oppression and discrimination, the persecution of believers of all faiths, and the failure to take steps necessary to halt the spread of preventable diseases like AIDS. We see these travesties as flowing from the same loss of the sense of the dignity of the human person and the sanctity of human life that drives the abortion industry and the movements for assisted suicide, euthanasia, and human cloning for biomedical research. And so ours is, as it must be, a truly consistent ethic of love and life for all humans in all circumstances.

Marriage

The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man.” For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. Genesis 2:23-24 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband. Ephesians 5:32-33 In Scripture, the creation of man and woman, and their one-flesh union as husband and wife, is the crowning achievement of God’s creation. In the transmission of life and the nurturing of children, men and women joined as spouses are given the great honor of being partners with God Himself. Marriage then, is the first institution of human society—indeed it is the institution on which all other human institutions have their foundation. In the Christian tradition we refer to marriage as “holy matrimony” to signal the fact that it is an institution ordained by God, and blessed by Christ in his participation at a wedding in Cana of Galilee. In the Bible, God Himself blesses and holds marriage in the highest esteem.

Vast human experience confirms that marriage is the original and most important institution for sustaining the health, education, and welfare of all persons in a society. Where marriage is honored, and where there is a flourishing marriage culture, everyone benefits—the spouses themselves, their children, the communities and societies in which they live. Where the marriage culture begins to erode, social pathologies of every sort quickly manifest themselves. Unfortunately, we have witnessed over the course of the past several decades a serious erosion of the marriage culture in our own country. Perhaps the most telling—and alarming—indicator is the out-of-wedlock birth rate. Less than fifty years ago, it was under 5 percent. Today it is over 40 percent. Our society—and particularly its poorest and most vulnerable sectors, where the out-of-wedlock birth rate is much higher even than the national average—is paying a huge price in delinquency, drug abuse, crime, incarceration, hopelessness, and despair. Other indicators are widespread non-marital sexual cohabitation and a devastatingly high rate of divorce.

We confess with sadness that Christians and our institutions have too often scandalously failed to uphold the institution of marriage and to model for the world the true meaning of marriage. Insofar as we have too easily embraced the culture of divorce and remained silent about social practices that undermine the dignity of marriage we repent, and call upon all Christians to do the same.

To strengthen families, we must stop glamorizing promiscuity and infidelity and restore among our people a sense of the profound beauty, mystery, and holiness of faithful marital love. We must reform ill-advised policies that contribute to the weakening of the institution of marriage, including the discredited idea of unilateral divorce. We must work in the legal, cultural, and religious domains to instill in young people a sound understanding of what marriage is, what it requires, and why it is worth the commitment and sacrifices that faithful spouses make.

The impulse to redefine marriage in order to recognize same-sex and multiple partner relationships is a symptom, rather than the cause, of the erosion of the marriage culture. It reflects a loss of understanding of the meaning of marriage as embodied in our civil and religious law and in the philosophical tradition that contributed to shaping the law. Yet it is critical that the impulse be resisted, for yielding to it would mean abandoning the possibility of restoring a sound understanding of marriage and, with it, the hope of rebuilding a healthy marriage culture. It would lock into place the false and destructive belief that marriage is all about romance and other adult satisfactions, and not, in any intrinsic way, about procreation and the unique character and value of acts and relationships whose meaning is shaped by their aptness for the generation, promotion and protection of life. In spousal communion and the rearing of children (who, as gifts of God, are the fruit of their parents’ marital love), we discover the profound reasons for and benefits of the marriage covenant.

We acknowledge that there are those who are disposed towards homosexual and polyamorous conduct and relationships, just as there are those who are disposed towards other forms of immoral conduct. We have compassion for those so disposed; we respect them as human beings possessing profound, inherent, and equal dignity; and we pay tribute to the men and women who strive, often with little assistance, to resist the temptation to yield to desires that they, no less than we, regard as wayward. We stand with them, even when they falter. We, no less than they, are sinners who have fallen short of God’s intention for our lives. We, no less than they, are in constant need of God’s patience, love and forgiveness. We call on the entire Christian community to resist sexual immorality, and at the same time refrain from disdainful condemnation of those who yield to it. Our rejection of sin, though resolute, must never become the rejection of sinners. For every sinner, regardless of the sin, is loved by God, who seeks not our destruction but rather the conversion of our hearts. Jesus calls all who wander from the path of virtue to “a more excellent way.” As his disciples we will reach out in love to assist all who hear the call and wish to answer it.

We further acknowledge that there are sincere people who disagree with us, and with the teaching of the Bible and Christian tradition, on questions of sexual morality and the nature of marriage. Some who enter into same- sex and polyamorous relationships no doubt regard their unions as truly marital. They fail to understand, however, that marriage is made possible by the sexual complementarity of man and woman, and that the comprehensive, multi-level sharing of life that marriage is includes bodily unity of the sort that unites husband and wife biologically as a reproductive unit. This is because the body is no mere extrinsic instrument of the human person, but truly part of the personal reality of the human being. Human beings are not merely centers of consciousness or emotion, or minds, or spirits, inhabiting non-personal bodies. The human person is a dynamic unity of body, mind, and spirit. Marriage is what one man and one woman establish when, forsaking all others and pledging lifelong commitment, they found a sharing of life at every level of being—the biological, the emotional, the dispositional, the rational, the spiritual—on a commitment that is sealed, completed and actualized by loving sexual intercourse in which the spouses become one flesh, not in some merely metaphorical sense, but by fulfilling together the behavioral conditions of procreation. That is why in the Christian tradition, and historically in Western law, consummated marriages are not dissoluble or annullable on the ground of infertility, even though the nature of the marital relationship is shaped and structured by its intrinsic orientation to the great good of procreation.

We understand that many of our fellow citizens, including some Christians, believe that the historic definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman is a denial of equality or civil rights. They wonder what to say in reply to the argument that asserts that no harm would be done to them or to anyone if the law of the community were to confer upon two men or two women who are living together in a sexual partnership the status of being “married.” It would not, after all, affect their own marriages, would it? On inspection, however, the argument that laws governing one kind of marriage will not affect another cannot stand. Were it to prove anything, it would prove far too much: the assumption that the legal status of one set of marriage relationships affects no other would not only argue for same sex partnerships; it could be asserted with equal validity for polyamorous partnerships, polygamous households, even adult brothers, sisters, or brothers and sisters living in incestuous relationships. Should these, as a matter of equality or civil rights, be recognized as lawful marriages, and would they have no effects on other relationships? No. The truth is that marriage is not something abstract or neutral that the law may legitimately define and re-define to please those who are powerful and influential.

No one has a civil right to have a non-marital relationship treated as a marriage. Marriage is an objective reality—a covenantal union of husband and wife—that it is the duty of the law to recognize and support for the sake of justice and the common good. If it fails to do so, genuine social harms follow. First, the religious liberty of those for whom this is a matter of conscience is jeopardized. Second, the rights of parents are abused as family life and sex education programs in schools are used to teach children that an enlightened understanding recognizes as “marriages” sexual partnerships that many parents believe are intrinsically non- marital and immoral. Third, the common good of civil society is damaged when the law itself, in its critical pedagogical function, becomes a tool for eroding a sound understanding of marriage on which the flourishing of the marriage culture in any society vitally depends. Sadly, we are today far from having a thriving marriage culture. But if we are to begin the critically important process of reforming our laws and mores to rebuild such a culture, the last thing we can afford to do is to re-define marriage in such a way as to embody in our laws a false proclamation about what marriage is.

And so it is out of love (not “animus”) and prudent concern for the common good (not “prejudice”), that we pledge to labor ceaselessly to preserve the legal definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman and to rebuild the marriage culture. How could we, as Christians, do otherwise? The Bible teaches us that marriage is a central part of God’s creation covenant. Indeed, the union of husband and wife mirrors the bond between Christ and his church. And so just as Christ was willing, out of love, to give Himself up for the church in a complete sacrifice, we are willing, lovingly, to make whatever sacrifices are required of us for the sake of the inestimable treasure that is marriage.

Religious Liberty

The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners. Isaiah 61:1

Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s. Matthew 22:21

The struggle for religious liberty across the centuries has been long and arduous, but it is not a novel idea or recent development. The nature of religious liberty is grounded in the character of God Himself, the God who is most fully known in the life and work of Jesus Christ. Determined to follow Jesus faithfully in life and death, the early Christians appealed to the manner in which the Incarnation had taken place: “Did God send Christ, as some suppose, as a tyrant brandishing fear and terror? Not so, but in gentleness and meekness..., for compulsion is no attribute of God” (Epistle to Diognetus 7.3-4). Thus the right to religious freedom has its foundation in the example of Christ Himself and in the very dignity of the human person created in the image of God—a dignity, as our founders proclaimed, inherent in every human, and knowable by all in the exercise of right reason.

Christians confess that God alone is Lord of the conscience. Immunity from religious coercion is the cornerstone of an unconstrained conscience. No one should be compelled to embrace any religion against his will, nor should persons of faith be forbidden to worship God according to the dictates of conscience or to express freely and publicly their deeply held religious convictions. What is true for individuals applies to religious communities as well.

It is ironic that those who today assert a right to kill the unborn, aged and disabled and also a right to engage in immoral sexual practices, and even a right to have relationships integrated around these practices be recognized and blessed by law—such persons claiming these “rights” are very often in the vanguard of those who would trample upon the freedom of others to express their religious and moral commitments to the sanctity of life and to the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife.

We see this, for example, in the effort to weaken or eliminate conscience clauses, and therefore to compel pro- life institutions (including religiously affiliated hospitals and clinics), and pro-life physicians, surgeons, nurses, and other health care professionals, to refer for abortions and, in certain cases, even to perform or participate in abortions. We see it in the use of anti-discrimination statutes to force religious institutions, businesses, and service providers of various sorts to comply with activities they judge to be deeply immoral or go out of business. After the judicial imposition of “same-sex marriage” in Massachusetts, for example, Catholic Charities chose with great reluctance to end its century-long work of helping to place orphaned children in good homes rather than comply with a legal mandate that it place children in same-sex households in violation of Catholic moral teaching. In New Jersey, after the establishment of a quasi-marital “civil unions” scheme, a Methodist institution was stripped of its tax exempt status when it declined, as a matter of religious conscience, to permit a facility it owned and operated to be used for ceremonies blessing homosexual unions. In Canada and some European nations, Christian clergy have been prosecuted for preaching Biblical norms against the practice of homosexuality. New hate-crime laws in America raise the specter of the same practice here.

In recent decades a growing body of case law has paralleled the decline in respect for religious values in the media, the academy and political leadership, resulting in restrictions on the free exercise of religion. We view this as an ominous development, not only because of its threat to the individual liberty guaranteed to every person, regardless of his or her faith, but because the trend also threatens the common welfare and the culture of freedom on which our system of republican government is founded. Restrictions on the freedom of conscience or the ability to hire people of one’s own faith or conscientious moral convictions for religious institutions, for example, undermines the viability of the intermediate structures of society, the essential buffer against the overweening authority of the state, resulting in the soft despotism Tocqueville so prophetically warned of.1 Disintegration of civil society is a prelude to tyranny.

As Christians, we take seriously the Biblical admonition to respect and obey those in authority. We believe in law and in the rule of law. We recognize the duty to comply with laws whether we happen to like them or not, unless the laws are gravely unjust or require those subject to them to do something unjust or otherwise immoral. The biblical purpose of law is to preserve order and serve justice and the common good; yet laws that are unjust—and especially laws that purport to compel citizens to do what is unjust—undermine the common good, rather than serve it.

Going back to the earliest days of the church, Christians have refused to compromise their proclamation of the gospel. In Acts 4, Peter and John were ordered to stop preaching. Their answer was, “Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God’s sight to obey you rather than God. For we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.” Through the centuries, Christianity has taught that civil disobedience is not only permitted, but sometimes required. There is no more eloquent defense of the rights and duties of religious conscience than the one offered by Martin Luther King, Jr., in his Letter from a Birmingham Jail. Writing from an explicitly Christian perspective, and citing Christian writers such as Augustine and Aquinas, King taught that just laws elevate and ennoble human beings because they are rooted in the moral law whose ultimate source is God Himself. Unjust laws degrade human beings. Inasmuch as they can claim no authority beyond sheer human will, they lack any power to bind in conscience. King’s willingness to go to jail, rather than comply with legal injustice, was exemplary and inspiring.

Because we honor justice and the common good, we will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family. We will fully and ungrudgingly render to Caesar what is Caesar’s. But under no circumstances will we render to Caesar what is God’s.

Dr. Daniel Akin President, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (Wake Forest, NC)

Most Rev. Peter J. Akinola Primate, Anglican Church of Nigeria (Abika, Nigeria)

Randy Alcorn Founder and Director, Eternal Perspective Ministries (EPM) (Sandy, OR)

Rt. Rev. David Anderson President and CEO, American Anglican Council (Atlanta, GA)

Leith Anderson President of National Association of Evangelicals (Washington, DC)

Charlotte K. Ardizzone TV Show Host and Speaker, INSP Television (Charlotte, NC)

Kay Arthur CEO and Co-founder, Precept Ministries International (Chattanooga, TN)

Dr. Mark L. Bailey President, Dallas Theological Seminary (Dallas, TX)

His Grace, The Right Reverend Bishop Basil Essey The Right Reverend Bishop of the Diocese of Wichita and Mid-America (Wichita, KS)

Joel Belz Founder, World Magazine (Asheville, NC)

Rev. Michael L. Beresford Managing Director of Church Relations, Billy Graham Evangelistic Assn. (Charlotte, NC)

Ken Boa President, Reflections Ministries (Atlanta, GA)

Joseph Bottum Editor of First Things (New York, NY)

Pastor Randy & Sarah Brannon Senior Pastor, Grace Community Church (Madera, CA)

Steve Brown National radio broadcaster, Key Life (Maitland, FL)

Dr. Robert C. Cannada, Jr. Chancellor and CEO of Reformed Theological Seminary (Orlando, FL)

Galen Carey Director of Government Affairs, National Association of Evangelicals (Washington, DC)

Dr. Bryan Chapell President, Covenant Theological Seminary (St. Louis, MO)

Scott Chapman Senior Pastor, The Chapel (Libertyville, IL)

Most Rev. Charles J. Chaput Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Denver, CO

Timothy Clinton President, American Association of Christian Counselors (Forest, VA)

Chuck Colson Founder, the Chuck Colson Center for Christian Worldview (Lansdowne, VA)

Most Rev. Salvatore Joseph Cordileone Bishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Oakland, CA

Dr. Gary Culpepper Associate Professor, Providence College (Providence, RI)

Jim Daly President and CEO, Focus on the Family (Colorado Springs, CO)

Marjorie Dannenfelser President, Susan B. Anthony List (Arlington, VA)

Rev. Daniel Delgado Board of Directors, National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference & Pastor, Third Day Missions Church (Staten Island, NY)

Dr. James Dobson Founder, Focus on the Family (Colorado Springs, CO)

Dr. David Dockery President, Union University (Jackson, TN)

Most Rev. Timothy Dolan Archbishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of New York, NY

Dr. William Donohue President, Catholic League (New York, NY)

Dr. James T. Draper, Jr. President Emeritus, LifeWay (Nashville, TN)

Dinesh D’Souza Writer & Speaker (Rancho Santa Fe, CA)

Most Rev. Robert Wm. Duncan Archbishop and Primate, Anglican Church in North America (Ambridge, PA )

Joni Eareckson Tada Founder and CEO, Joni and Friends International Disability Center (Agoura Hills, CA)

Dr. Michael Easley President Emeritus, Moody Bible Institute (Chicago, IL)

Dr. William Edgar Professor, Westminster Theological Seminary (Philadelphia, PA)

Brett Elder Executive Director, Stewardship Council (Grand Rapids, MI)

Rev. Joel Elowsky Drew University ( Madison, NJ)

Stuart Epperson Co-Founder and Chariman of the Board, Salem Communications Corporation ( Camarillo, CA)

Rev. Jonathan Falwell Senior Pastor, Thomas Road Baptist Church (Lynchburg, VA)

William J. Federer President, Amerisearch, Inc. (St. Louis, MO)

Fr. Joseph D. Fessio Founder and Editor, Ignatius Press (Ft. Collins, CO)

Carmen Fowler President & Executive Editor, Presbyterian Lay Committee (Lenoir, NC)

Maggie Gallagher President, Institute for Marriage and Public Policy and a co-author of The Case for Marriage (Manassas, VA)

Dr. Jim Garlow Senior Pastor, Skyline Church (La Mesa, CA)

Steven Garofalo Senior Consultant, Search and Assessment Services (Charlotte, NC)

Dr. Robert P. George McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence, Princeton University (Princeton, NJ)

Dr. Timothy George Dean and Professor of Divinity, Beeson Divinity School at Samford University (Birmingham, AL)

Thomas Gilson Director of Strategic Processes, Campus Crusade for Christ International (Norfolk, VA)

Dr. Jack Graham Pastor, Prestonwood Baptist Church (Plano, TX)

Dr. Wayne Grudem Research Professor of Theological and Biblical Studies, Phoenix Seminary (Phoenix, AZ)

Dr. Cornell “Corkie” Haan National Facilitator of Spiritual Unity, The Mission America Coalition (Palm Desert, CA)

Fr. Chad Hatfield Chancellor, CEO. And Archpriest, St Vladimir’s Orthodox Theological Seminary (Yonkers, NY)

Dr. Dennis Hollinger President and Professor of Christian Ethics, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (South Hamilton, MA)

Dr. Jeanette Hsieh Executive VP and Provost, Trinity International University (Deerfield, IL)

Dr. John A. Huffman, Jr. Senior Pastor, St. Andrews Presbyterian Church (Newport Beach, CA) and Chairman of the Board, Christianity Today International (Carol Stream, IL)

Rev. Ken Hutcherson Pastor, Antioch Bible Church (Kirkland, WA)

Bishop Harry R. Jackson, Jr. Senior Pastor, Hope Christian Church (Beltsville, MD)

Fr. Johannes L. Jacobse President, American Orthodox Institute and Editor, OrthodoxyToday.org (Naples, FL)

Jerry Jenkins Chairman of the board of trustees for Moody Bible Institute (Black Forest, CO)

Camille Kampouris Publisher, Kairos Journal

Emmanuel A. Kampouris Editorial Board, Kairos Journal

Rev. Tim Keller Senior Pastor, Redeemer Presbyterian Church (New York, NY)

Dr. Peter Kreeft Professor of Philosophy, Boston College (MA) and at the Kings College (NY)

Most Rev. Joseph E. Kurtz Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Louisville, KY

Jim Kushiner Editor, Touchstone (Chicago, IL)

Dr. Richard Land President, The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the SBC (Washington, DC)

Jim Law Senior Associate Pastor, First Baptist Church (Woodstock, GA)

Dr. Matthew Levering Associate Professor of Theology, Ave Maria University (Naples, FL)

Dr. Peter Lillback President, The Providence Forum (West Conshohocken, PA)

Dr. Duane Litfin President, Wheaton College (Wheaton, IL)

Rev. Herb Lusk Pastor, Greater Exodus Baptist Church (Philadelphia, PA)

His Eminence Adam Cardinal Maida Archbishop Emeritus, Roman Catholic Diocese of Detroit, MI

Most Rev. Richard J. Malone Bishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland, ME

Rev. Francis Martin Professor of Sacred Scripture, Sacred Heart Major Seminary (Detroit, MI)

Dr. Joseph Mattera Bishop & Senior Pastor, Resurrection Church (Brooklyn, NY)

Phil Maxwell Pastor, Gateway Church (Bridgewater, NJ)

Josh McDowell Founder, Josh McDowell Ministries (Plano, TX)

Alex McFarland President, Southern Evangelical Seminary (Charlotte, NC)

Most Rev. George Dallas McKinney Bishop, & Founder and Pastor, St. Stephen’s Church of God in Christ (San Diego, CA)

Rt. Rev. Martyn Minns Missionary Bishop, Convocation of Anglicans of North America (Herndon, VA)

Dr. C. Ben Mitchell Graves Professor of Moral Philosophy, Union University (Jackson, TN)

Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr. President, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (Louisville, KY)

Dr. Russell D. Moore Senior VP for Academic Administration & Dean of the School of Theology, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (Louisville, KY)

Most Rev. John J. Myers Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Newark, NJ

Most Rev. Joseph F. Naumann Archbishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Kansas City, KS

David Neff Editor-in-Chief, Christianity Today (Carol Stream, IL)

Tom Nelson Senior Pastor, Christ Community Evangelical Free Church (Leawood, KS)

Niel Nielson President, Covenant College (Lookout Mt., GA)

Most Rev. John Nienstedt Archbishop, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis, MN

Dr. Tom Oden Theologian, United Methodist Minister and Professor, Drew University (Madison, NJ)

Marvin Olasky Editor-in-Chief, World Magazine and provost, The Kings College (New York City, NY)

Most Rev. Thomas J. Olmsted Bishop, Roman Catholic Diocese of Phoenix, AZ

Rev. William Owens Chairman, Coalition of African-American Pastors (Memphis, TN)

Dr. J.I. Packer Board of Governors’ Professor of Theology, Regent College (Canada)

Metr. Jonah Paffhausen Primate, Orthodox Church in America (Syosset, NY)

Tony Perkins President, Family Research Council (Washington, D.C.)

Eric M. Pillmore CEO, Pillmore Consulting LLC (Doylestown, PA)

Dr. Everett Piper President, Oklahoma Wesleyan University (Bartlesville, OK)

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Comments:

11.20.2009 | 9:25am
The second sentence states, "While fully acknowledging the imperfections and shortcomings of Christian institutions and communities in all ages . . ."

Does any of the signatories, in his/her wildest fantasies, believe any thinking, rational person will accept this as an adequate and accurate description of what was, in fact, unspeakable brutality and savagery?
11.20.2009 | 9:26am
Thank you ,LORD. In all things, in our weakness, make us strong by your Spirit.
11.20.2009 | 9:43am
Gregg says:
This is excellent. May God grant all of us the grace to courageously stand up for the truth. For it can no longer be doubted that the dignity of the human person, the sanctity of marriage, and the right to religious freedom are under direct assault. Hopefully "all people of goodwill" are listening.
11.20.2009 | 10:02am
Cale Judd says:
Where do I sign?
11.20.2009 | 10:02am
Mr. Cassil,

I abhor what the Church has done historically. It has often brutally treated people in the name of Christ, and such treatment was always incompatable with the dictates of the New Testament.

At the same time, the Church as a body, and belivers in general, need not preface every statement they make with an apology, any more than the United States government or any other government prefaces missives to another nation whom they have squared off against in a war with constant apologies.

It would be like the Secretary of State beginning her call to the Japanese Foreign Minister with "Good afternoon, Sir. Once again, my deepest apologies for the atrocities we committed by dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I know we have no right, as a result of those terrible things to say anything to you, but..." It won't happen, and it shouldn't have to happen. A heartfelt apology is sufficient.

Further, the Church today, while inheriting the legacy (for good or for ill) of the many crimes of her children of an earlier age, is no more responsible for the Crusades or burning people at the stake than an officer in the US Army is today for the firebombing of Dresden, Germany in WWII.

Apologies have their place, and we Christians should apologize perhaps more than most, but we need to preface everything we do with an apology, so long as our actions TRULY reflect the life, teaching, and person of Jesus Christ.

My hats off to the framers of the Manhattan Declaration.
11.20.2009 | 10:06am
James M. says:
I'll have to agree with Charles here. I don't really understand the point of this declaration. Nothing new has been brought to my understanding. It's the same basic conservative Christian message that has been hammered into society for years.

The opening paragraphs seemed enticing enough, but I finished pretty disappointed. The whole ideology of there being no gray in these lines of thought is a little disheartening. Especially with admitting to "the imperfections and shortcomings of Christian institutions and communities in all ages..." I'd think a different approach would be taken in the views listed.

The message as it stands is that there is no good in it. This thought can only lead to hate and anguish amongst both parties. This isn't constructive or loving, whatsoever.
11.20.2009 | 10:10am
Nate Eagle says:
"...that the institution of marriage, already buffeted by promiscuity, infidelity and divorce, is in jeopardy of being redefined to accommodate fashionable ideologies."

This is such a charming way of belittling those countless human beings who have sacrificed enormously to fight for equal treatment under the law, to persuade their friends and family that who they are is not shameful and wrong, to demonstrate to the world that marriage should not be a legal benefit conferred on those favored by popular prejudice.

This is--to my eyes--a characteristically Christian way of slipping disdain and contempt for those who disagree into ostentatiously self-righteous rhetoric under the guise of moral calls-to-action. It is ugly, and it is wrong.
11.20.2009 | 10:17am
Greg Miller says:
Charles, it's very unclear what you're trying to say. To what are you referring with so brief a phrase as "unspeakable brutality and savagery"?

Christian history spans 2,000+ years, and the entire globe. To send your words back at you, does any rational person accept your four short words as "an adequate and accurate description" of something that is so vast?
11.20.2009 | 10:19am
John says:
Oh good....the same tired comments used to justify laws against inter-racial marriage, slavery, and all other ignorant, hateful, bigotry throughout history. This group of people are nothing but bigots hiding behind Christianity...while being nothing like Christ. I know now that i get to pick and choose the scripture in the bible i WANT to follow, while ignoring the scripture i dont like (i.e. polygamy, incest, not eating shrimp or lobster, stoning my neighbor, never eating pork or bacon).

This group of people are pathetic and sad.
11.20.2009 | 10:21am
Meg Zetzer says:
Oh thank God!
11.20.2009 | 10:27am
Katie says:
Mr. Cassil,

Do you understand that Christians have, for thousands of years, been engaged in a continual process of reflection, repentance, confession, and apology regarding our own sins, both individually and corporately? It is long past time for us to be forced at every turn to begin every conversation with paragraphs and pages of contrition, as though we had not once ever acknowledged responsibility for "unspeakable brutality and savagery."

Rather than graciously acccepting this confession, you and others of your ilk manipulate us into continuing to bow to your supposed moral superiority, rather than respectfully allowing us to engage in life-giving ministry and mission.

Get over yourself, and move on. Life with Jesus is better than life without Him.
11.20.2009 | 10:37am
Will says:
Is war not also a major contributor to our culture of death? It certainly "cheapens life in all its stages and conditions by promoting the belief that lives that are imperfect, immature or inconvenient are discardable." Warring nations send their youth to kill and to be killed, using death as a tool for some amorphous "greater good." How is this any different than stem-cell research advocates arguing that the destruction of embryos will eventually save and improve many lives in the future.

I must then question their assertion that our culture of death began with Roe, when war, with Christian participation and often leadership, has contributed to a perverted notion of life for many years and still does today. The omission of war in this declaration (is it not a "current" topic?) also leads me to question whether the authors are truly stepping out of political lines.
11.20.2009 | 10:46am
The second sentence states, "While fully acknowledging the imperfections and shortcomings of Christian institutions and communities in all ages . . ."

Does any of the signatories, in his/her wildest fantasies, believe any thinking, rational person will accept this as an adequate and accurate description of what was, in fact, unspeakable brutality and savagery?

Yes, if they reject the distorted and false secular narrative of the Enlightenment and its predecessors, which have been ably rebutted in several books over the last number of years, including those authored by Rodney Stark, Robert Royal, and David Bentley Hart. Hart's Atheist Delusions is a devastating tome in which he skewers the fairy tales of the New Atheists such as Dawkins and Harris.

The thinking exhibited by Charles is precisely what frightens Christians. Once it becomes a part of our social DNA--that Christians, left to their own devices, are irredeemably wicked--then there is a "compelling state interest" for marginalization and persecution, supported and encouraged by the state. We've seen the beginnings of it with the Catholic Charities cases in Massachusetts and California as well as the post-Prop 8 bullying. (see http://www.heritage.org/research/family/bg2328.cfm ). When the leading writers of secularity--Dawkins, Dennett, and Harris--equate Christian belief with something akin to mental illness or immorality, and when the Supreme Court believes that Christian sexual morality and those views aligned with it in other faiths and philosophical traditions must be born of animus, you have the perfect culture recipe to justify state coercion of the most abhorrent sort.
11.20.2009 | 10:54am
SUPERB !
11.20.2009 | 11:13am
John Wright says:
"Does any of the signatories, in his/her (sic) wildest fantasies, believe any thinking, rational person will accept this as an adequate and accurate description of what was, in fact, unspeakable brutality and savagery?"

The whole point of being a Leftist devoted to what is (basically) antichristianity, is that no apology is ever asked (since the follower of antichrist is always right, and always sinless) and, more importantly, no apology is ever accepted (since a follower of Christ is always wrong, and can never be redeemed). This is merely the Left's inversion of a Christian doctrine of sin and forgiveness. They never admit sin, they never ask for forgiveness, and, more importantly, never grant it.

"Is war not also a major contributor to our culture of death?"

Again, since respect for the the light of human reason (and awareness of its limitations) is part of Christian doctrine and tradition, the Leftist followers of antichristianity both (with no sense of self contradiction)

(1) dismiss the idea that there are any limitations on human reason -- see their many confident statements adorned with much boosterism for the glories of human progress, or see their self-congratulatory self-label as the reality-based community --- and

(2) at the same time abandon any pretense that human reason is effective --- as here, where an irrelevant comment about warfare is introduced in what logicians identify as the informal logical error of ad hominem. The enthymeme goes as follows: 1. Christian say abortion, euthanasia, adultery, fornication, and sodomy are wrong. 2. War is also wrong; 3. Only someone who has never engaged in a war has the right to condemn anything as wrong; 4. All human cultures, including Christian ones, have frequently engaged in wars; therefore 5. Christians have no right to condemn abortion, euthanasia, adultery, fornication and sodomy; therefore 6. Abortion, euthanasia, adultery, fornication and sodomy are not wrong.

If you notice, dear readers, not just one or two, but the overwhelming majority of all "argument" coming from the Left is merely ad hominem. They no longer even make a pretense of referring to the facts or supplying the logic of their conclusions. All they do is condemn as morally and mentally inferior those who reach any other conclusions.
11.20.2009 | 11:30am
jason taylor says:
"Is war not also a major contributor to our culture of death? It certainly "cheapens life in all its stages and conditions by promoting the belief that lives that are imperfect, immature or inconvenient are discardable." Warring nations send their youth to kill and to be killed, using death as a tool for some amorphous "greater good." How is this any different than stem-cell research advocates arguing that the destruction of embryos will eventually save and improve many lives in the future."

Reason 1. Baby's don't shoot back. They are no threat and are not trying to be.

Reason 2. The justification for war is usually claimed to be collective self-defense. The justification for abortion is sloth.

Reason 3. It is easier to believe in a society surviving without abortion then without war. That is not necessarily an excuse but it is at least an extenuation.

Reason 4. War is killing simply. Abortion is killing added to base treachery. It makes mothers into murderers and doctors into hired killers.

Reason 5. That argument works just as well the other way. Why are people anti-war yet support abortion?

Reason 6. Babies don't shoot back. Need I repeat?
11.20.2009 | 11:57am
Nate writes: "It is ugly, and it is wrong."

Who are you to judge? People said the same thing about interracial marriage. And now you're applying the same labels to those who defend the ground for opposing interracial marriage, male/female complementarity.

But... if things are ugly, then things are beautiful. But such judgments require more than mere sentiment or empirical observation. They require an intellectual power to see the normative in the ordinary; to see intrinsic purposes. But that is precisely what must be denied in order to affirm same-sex marriage, since male-female complementary so obviously true that you need a theory to talk yourself out of it. And that theory, unfortunately, leads to this: one man's ugliness is another's aesthetic fullfilling experience. The skepticism card always remains in your deck even after play it.
11.20.2009 | 12:08pm
Paul says:
I admire Francis Beckwith's intelligent and measured response to Charles Cassil, whose outburst was unfortunately the first comment posted. It may be edifying, from time to time, to condemn the sins of dead people whom we never knew. It is probably more edifying still to condemn our own sins. But one should at least identify the sins being condemned.
11.20.2009 | 12:09pm
Will says:
Jason Taylor - Thanks for your calmer response

I'm not playing an either/or game. Many things feed into our culture of death and war is just one of the BIG ones. The term "culture of death" was coined not only in reference to the innocent of our society, but our (us) sinners as well. Christian respect for life not only applies to the unborn or the dying, but to the poor, the imprisoned, and yes, those who shoot at us. Christ dealt with persecutors and his message was to pray for them and to break bread with them.

We don't have to argue whether abortion or war is a more important or more Christian issue. I would argue that they are both important. As Christians, we can step out of political platforms and declare "Death is wrong." Amazing how such a seemingly basic and secular statement is precisely Christ's countercultural message. It's also amazing that so few say it. I am simply disappointed that our Christian leaders who signed on to this declaration have such a limited view of the Christian struggle for life.
11.20.2009 | 12:13pm
Guys and girls...what is most important is that these brave people are setting aside their diferences in order to speak about what they have in common! This is indeed VERY HISTORIC. It is on this humble and basic beginning that we can combat the world view and seek to REUNIFY the splinters that is the Church.

As to the comment made in regard to the second sentance, Let's get real and put things into perspective. Truer evil was never known than that which sought eradication of a moral conscience and seeks to destroy that Which God created in his masterpiece, MAN.

Let us not unravel what these people sought to create. Instead let us rally around the opportunity to work together and bring us closer together...that is certainly the WILL OF GOD.
11.20.2009 | 12:28pm
Evan Weeks says:
Nate Eagle wrote:

"This is such a charming way of belittling those countless human beings who have sacrificed enormously to fight for equal treatment under the law, to persuade their friends and family that who they are is not shameful and wrong, to demonstrate to the world that marriage should not be a legal benefit conferred on those favored by popular prejudice.

This is--to my eyes--a characteristically Christian way of slipping disdain and contempt for those who disagree into ostentatiously self-righteous rhetoric under the guise of moral calls-to-action. It is ugly, and it is wrong."

First, there is nothing belittling about calling people to repentance, especially since it is the same repentance we all share in. And they are no more or less "shameful and wrong" than any of the rest of us that have been convicted of our sin and brought to our knees at the Cross.

Next, marriage is not a set of legal benefits, nor is it some special reserved "class." Marriage is, quite simply, the oldest covenant before God of which we are aware. It is, therefore, a religious institution, a sacrament no less sacred than the advent of the Lord's Supper and no less dear to the global community of Christians than the face of Muhammad is to the Islamic community. That the state has chosen to confer legal status on couples who have entered into this covenant is troublesome at its foundation to me, simply because it is a legal recognition of a religious faith. Separate the two, such that marriage remains exclusively a covenant before God and any legal concerns the exclusive province of Earthly government, and for me the problem is solved. Anything beyond that in either direction is an infringement of one world upon the other.

In any case, your use of the words "characteristically Christian" when heaping contempt on our beliefs simply reveals your own prejudice. See to the plank in your own eye and all that.
11.20.2009 | 12:29pm
Paul says:
I admire Francis Beckwith's measured response to Charles Cassil, whose outburst was unfortunately the first message posted. It may be edifying, from time to time, to condemn the sins of the Christian dead whom we have never known. It is probably more edifying still to condemn our own sins. But we should at least identify the sins we are condemning.
11.20.2009 | 12:35pm
Fr. Lyons,

Please accept my thanks for your response. I really appreciate your willingness to engage my thinking and offer yours. Socrates spoke of the pleasures of contemplation and conversation. Intelligent, thoughtful, civil discourse is just above air in my hierarchy of needs, so again, thank you.

In response to your second paragraph: Neither the framers of the declaration nor I say "apologize." Their phrase ". . . imperfections and shortcomings . . ." is neither accurate nor adequate. It is, for all practical purposes, a meaningless acknowledgement; the distance between "imperfections and shortcomings" and reality is just too great.

Shakespeare wrote, with breathtaking elegance "Damn with faint praise." Are the framers of the Declaration praising with faint damnation?
11.20.2009 | 12:48pm
Albert says:
Well said, signatories!
11.20.2009 | 1:31pm
A question (if this has not already arisen): Why the limitation to Catholics, Orthodox, and Evangelicals? I recall the statements of Evangelicals and Catholics Together (ECT). But now that Orthodox have been included, why not non-evangelical Protestants? I'm sure a number of us would be happy to add our signatures to this excellent document.
11.20.2009 | 1:31pm
Ars Artium says:
I can understand that those who do not consider Hebrew and Christian Scripture as authoritative in any particular way will not find the Manhattan Declaration authoritative either. If I am correct, it was not intended to convince unbelievers that the faith is true. The purpose of the Declaration was to (1) set forth Christian belief and (2) defend the constitutional right of Christians to believe and act in accordance with it. The reason the statement needed to be made is that individual Christians and Church charitable organizations are in danger of being forced under penalty of law to act against conscience or forfeit their participation in public life.
11.20.2009 | 1:39pm
Victor says:
We've got to start somewhere folks!

I agree and I also say, hats off to the framers of the Manhattan Declaration and of course those who believe otherwise have a right to agree to disagree and God will eventually set U>S all straight as to what He Truly Believes .

In the mean time!

Peace to all people of good will who have all fallen short of God's Love as sinners that we are.

God Bless
11.20.2009 | 1:50pm
Phylosophy says:
The document is full of claims which are totally untrue in the world of practicing Christianity. There is NO way I would sign this document.
11.20.2009 | 1:58pm
James S. says:
Charles,

Every time the US government speaks, should it be required to apologize for the destruction of Native American culture? Should it be required to apologize for the firebombing of cities such as Dresden and Tokyo during WWII or the use of nuclear weapons in Japan? Should Germany preface all its official declarations with an apology for the Holocaust? Should Japan still be begging China to forgive it for the Rape of Nanking (amongst many other wrongs from that era)? How about Islam? I can think of more than a few wrongs that haunt its past, so should Muslim leaders always be required to apologize for those? Should your average Muslim be required at every profession of his faith to beg America's forgiveness for the horror of 9/11?

I could go on, but I suspect that my point - that Christians should not be required to apologize over and over and over again for wrongs that were committed in the name of their faith, often centuries before they were born - is already quite clear.
11.20.2009 | 2:17pm
rustle says:
It will be interesting to watch to see if this move does anything or instead simply becomes one more demonstration of how the larger community increasingly moves away from any strongly held religious beliefs. Will individuals simply resign rather than compromise their faith or will they litigate to compel the government to fund their hospitals and institutions? Is a Christian cardiologist expected to refuse to practice in a hospital that performs abortions in another wing? Will physicians refuse to take reimbursement payments from insurance companies that extend benefits to same sex partners? Or will the financial cost be so great that only a small minority makes any real sacrifice?
11.20.2009 | 2:35pm
hillbilly says:
I have been a priest some 46 years and one of the most repeated advice I have given is the same as that given by the angel to Lot and his family as they left Sodom - poor Mrs Lot. Some of the commentators should perhaps re-read her story.
11.20.2009 | 2:53pm
Margo says:
A life is a life is a life. If this is your intention with this document, why are you omitting the lives of our military and the innocent loss of life that is occurring right now in Iraq and Afghanistan? I do not want any of my tax dollars going to pay for war, particularly a war that was started under false pretenses and for all the wrong reasons. Where is the moral outrage against war in general, if it takes so much as one life? Some will argue, well, they came here and attacked us. Yes, a group of people did come here and attack us, but they weren't from Iraq or Afghanistan. More than likely, they came out of Pakistan. Also, President Obama has stated on several occasions that there would be no tax payer funded abortions in any health care reform bill. I am a Christian and as such will not rest until we have health care for everyone. This is a God-given right for all and this is truly what all Christians should be fighting for and signing declarations about. This document is very political and the ones who drafted this should be ashamed of themselves for tying their feelings about abortions and stem cell research in such a partisan way. As Christians, I hope we are all praying for our President and our country in this time of strife. Helping the poor is helping make sure they can go to a doctor when there is a need.
11.20.2009 | 3:03pm
I am not a Christian nor ideologically a pure conservative. But I am for this. I think it is as has been said, "a line drawn in the sand", so to speak, and this was needed, culturally. I notice D'Souza has signed it, and I am not surprised nor am I displeased to see his name therein. I think it is a shame that this is limited to religious orthodoxy, as there are many culturally like minded secularists. Secular, in the sense that they belong to no church proper.
11.20.2009 | 3:05pm
To Phylosophy: care to at least name one claim that is antithetical to practicing Christianity?

Early Christians were set apart from the pagan counterparts by many reasons one of the main ones was the value Christians placed up each person simply because of their humanity.

For so-called Christians to abandon the 2000 years of Christian understanding and aceed to worldly demands simply because it is popular is a horrible scandal.

Abortion is an evil whose social consequence we are only just beginning to see and understand. It debases all that is human as does the idea the being human can and should be reduced simply to what or whom sexually attracts us and the pernicious idea that human life can be valued solely in utilitarian terms.

There is a righteous use of even deadly physical force, there is no justification for the wanton destruction of life simply because said life is 'inconvienent' or 'unproductive'.

Each of us is deformed by sin and that deformation affects all of us even from the womb. That does not mean that we are not called to submit such sins to the healing love of Jesus Christ even if they seem 'natural' to us.

The document calls us all to live a more exacting life of virtue and repentance while at the same time proclaiming the Gospel to the world.

I cheerfully signed it and encourage others to do the same even though I know it will require a deeper repentance for my own sins and will cost me more money too--as I evaluate my health insurance for instance.
11.20.2009 | 3:08pm
Phylosophy writes, "The document is full of claims which are totally untrue in the world of practicing Christianity." Well, there are a great many claims that are untrue in the world of practicing Christianity. I am part of the world of practicing Christianity, and in my world there are those who deny the Holocaust, those who claim the earth is flat, and those who claim Armstrong's moonwalk was staged by Hollywood. There are also those who claim that God endorses sodomy because His first concern is a person's happiness rather than holiness, or that He cares more about a mother's right to choose than her child's right to life. What governs my life is a Christian are not the false claims in the world, but the revealed truth of the Christian faith. It is to this revealed truth that Manhattan bears witness, and it is for that reason that I eagerly signed my name.
11.20.2009 | 3:15pm
Angela says:
These men and women make me proud to be a Christian! I hope and pray that these words will actually be read and taken to heart by those with influence in our nation.
11.20.2009 | 3:43pm
JTJ says:
To what extent does the Moslem community adhere to the same principles? Why are they excluded from this effort? I believe this is a great opportunity to work on shared beliefs about the dignity of a person.
11.20.2009 | 4:42pm
I'm fascinated by the blog replies to a great statement. Those who disagree with the Manhattan Declaration which is clearly based upon Biblical truth, sound like people who have no absolute truth to live by.

Believers are being being confronted by what seems to be certain national destruction ahead. I would rather stand and die for truth as well described in the Manhattan Declaration than die like, "the frog in the kettle." In the 20th Century more people were killed by declared Atheists than in all the truly religious wars of history. Nothing has changed.
11.20.2009 | 4:45pm
I signed this excellent statement today, and share my fellow Lutheran's, James Neuchterlein, disappointment that Lutheran leaders were not sought out to sign this statement.

I whole-heartedly oppose the Papacy and the errors of Orthodoxy and American Evangelicalism, and I heartily embrace this statement and am please to add my name to it.

When the house is on fire, one grabs buckets of water from whomever and wherever one cans.
11.20.2009 | 5:12pm
Wright Family:

Dear Jesus,

Please forgive my sins and all others sins as we stand in the final days of our worlds current existence!
It is evident that we are in the final days by what is occurring all around us!
For some of us there will be great tribulations to exist if you are not called!
I am far from perfect as you can get but, I will never be able to deny God!
God bless these men of God for making a stand!

May the Trinity abide with us all!
11.20.2009 | 5:26pm
Dallas says:
As a Christian, I applaud the bold stand this group of Christian Clergy are taking.....it is about time!
11.20.2009 | 5:33pm
John Losacco says:
In spite of what our president has said, we are a Christian nation and one nation under God. A Christian nation allows freedom of speech to any religion whether we agree with their belief or not. We should not compromise our belief in order to be politically correct. Be biblically correct is more important. Every American should be praying that our country will remain FREE. Our government has forgotton that we are survivors because we believe in freedon of speech and freedom of religion. There is no color distinction, we are all Americans. God Bless America and the men that started this movement. Keep them in your prayers and join them in their creed.
11.20.2009 | 5:47pm
M Allen says:
If these self-proclaimed Christians care so much about the poor why are they opposed to providing the American people with health care? Why are they so beholden to the insurance industry and oppose the public option?

Many of these people listed above, such as James Dobson, oppose workers' rights and are pro-corporate.

Where was this grand pronouncement to protect the unborn and children when George W. Bush was bombing and murdering children and pregnant women in Iraq?

Where was this grand pronouncement when innocent people were tortured by the Bush administration at Guantanamo Bay?
11.20.2009 | 6:19pm
R Hampton says:
The co-signers do have a right to believe that LGBT issues are sinful and morally injurious. Furthermore, churches do not need to "LGBT" laws provided they are divested from government funding (a tax exemption that forces everyone else to pay higher taxes to cover the non-payment by churches). And certainly there is no legal means to make dissenting churches marry gays, the divorced or anyone else they do not accept. But the Right of Conscience can not be used to take away the rights from another:

James Madison, "Property, March 1792

...In the former sense, a man's land, or merchandize, or money is called his property.

In the latter sense, a man has a property in his opinions and the free communication of them.

He has a property of peculiar value in his religious opinions, and in the profession and practice dictated by them.

He has a property very dear to him in the safety and liberty of his person.

He has an equal property in the free use of his faculties and free choice of the objects on which to employ them.

In a word, as a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights.

...That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where arbitrary restrictions, exemptions, and monopolies deny to part of its citizens that free use of their faculties, and free choice of their occupations, which not only constitute their property in the general sense of the word; but are the means of acquiring property strictly so called.

If there be a government then which prides itself in maintaining the inviolability of property; which provides that none shall be taken directly even for public use without indemnification to the owner, and yet directly violates the property which individuals have in their opinions, their religion, their persons, and their faculties; nay more, which indirectly violates their property, in their actual possessions, in the labor that acquires their daily subsistence, and in the hallowed remnant of time which ought to relieve their fatigues and soothe their cares, the influence [inference?] will have been anticipated, that such a government is not a pattern for the United States.
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Because you may not violate the “peculiar value” of a person’s “religious opinions, and in the profession and practice dictated by them,” you do not have the right to deny gays from marrying -- just as you have no right to deny the married from divorcing. You can not impose your religious beliefs on those who hold a different opinion.

So all the argument made against LGBT issues like gay marriage hold true for divorce. And because you, the co-signers, and “traditional” Christians do not treat these issues with the same intense opposition, then your Biblical and Constitutional hypocrisy forces me into to be your adversary.

You want to win me over? Push against divorce with equal vigor and voice. Prove to me you take Biblical commandments and threats to the family with true seriousness. After all, how is the American Family, or the American Soul made better in a world with legalized divorce but a prohibition against gay marriage?
11.20.2009 | 6:33pm
Roger says:
Count me in
11.20.2009 | 6:37pm
Hugh says:
This should have been done by leadership 36 years ago.

A wonderful step in the right direction. Time to take a stand.
Next comes the battle.
11.20.2009 | 6:43pm
The homosexual agenda will become the persecution of the Church because we, the Church, will be forced to disobey laws that contradict God's law. I agree whole heartedly with this Declaration and pray that it slows the advance of our society's digression.
11.20.2009 | 6:51pm
Mary says:
War happens.
There are bad guys out there.
When the aggressor comes, it is good that there are brave defenders willing to put their life on the line.

What would you prefer? Tyranny?

Because that is the result if nobody defends against the aggressor.
11.20.2009 | 6:59pm
Where do I sign?
11.20.2009 | 7:09pm
SM Kovalinsky:

I'm certainly glad that you, as a secularist, share the values spoken of in the Manhattan Declaration. Perhaps there will one day be a joining together of religious and non-religious on these concerns. I hope, though, that you realize that the grounds for such a joining together would be somewhat different than those that brought the Christians of the Declaration together. The consequents would be the same, but they would proceed from different premises. Much in the current debate over these topics takes a distinctly anti-Christian tone; even now, people within the "culture of death" are working on legal rationales to overturn "culture of life" victories by claiming they institute Christianity as a state religion ... thus effectively stripping Christians—and like-minded non-Christians!—of their right to have a say in their government. We definitely welcome your support, however, for "He that is not against us is for us" (Mk 9:40).
11.20.2009 | 7:32pm
Kelly Dollar says:
This is long overdue, but a great step in the right direction.
11.20.2009 | 7:38pm
R Hampton:

Not to interrupt your rant, but in your apparent zeal to focus in on the condemnation of same-sex marriage, you missed several condemnations of divorce. Therefore, your peroration was somewhat anticlimactic. Moreover, as interesting as your quotation of J. Madison was, you've missed another point: No homosexual is denied the right of marriage; rather, we hold that "same-sex marriage" is a contradiction in terms.
11.20.2009 | 8:06pm
I, too, will sign.
11.20.2009 | 8:16pm
John Soucy says:
Thanks to all who signed the Declaration
11.20.2009 | 8:45pm
Larry Miller says:
I find the Manhattan Declaration troubling on a number of points:

1) Though the language referrring to gay & lesbian people is couched in somewhat softer/gentler/kinder terms than have often been used over the years, the negative impact on gay & lesbian couples and families is the same. The writers are clearly opposed to equal treatment under the law for gay/lesbian couples and their children. It seems disingenuous to speak of love for my neighbor and to then stand in opposition to his/her right to full participation in civil society and it's institutions. The reference to "polyamorous conduct and relationships" strikes me as simple fear-mongering.

2)The declaration makes much ado about religious liberty, which it seems to me is quite secure in this country. Anti-discrimination laws typically exempt religious institutions, allowing them to freely discriminate according to their beliefs. The problem arises when faith-based institutions take public money but then don't want to provide services to all of the public. If you take public funds, you simply have to follow the local anti-discrimination statutes. So, if Catholic Charities wants to discriminate against gay/lesbian people, then they should refuse public dollars and fund their own ministries. Seems simple enough to me. --- And what about the lack of religious liberty afforded to those christian pastors/congregations who would like to be able to marry same-sex couples on a par with their straight congregants? The declaration stands in opposition to their religious liberty.

3)As a peace & justice minded, Mennonite, christian, it is incredible to me that the writers speak so extensively about pro-life issues but somehow ignore the state-sanctioned killing of people via war and capital punishment. Seems to me that a consistent pro-life ethic would include all the above. Contrary to the post by Michael Bauman, I can't conceive of a "righteous use of even deadly force," in the light of Jesus' teachings and example.
11.20.2009 | 9:10pm
Br. Timothy says:
I am amazed by the number of commentators who seem unaware of the fundamental distinction between intrinsic evil (direct killing of the innocent, licentious behavior of various sorts, etc...) and prudential judgment concerning something as complicated as war. Take just one look at the criteria for just war, and tell me it is a black and white issue. When one holds a consistent ethic of life, every issue does not have the same weight. As long as people persist in their ignorance of such a rudimentary fact, their confused comments contribute but little to the discussion at hand.
11.20.2009 | 9:26pm
R Hampton:

Your accusation of hypocrisy rings hollow. That is a nasty word that people toss around far too lightly. I don't doubt that you are aware that the people who signed that document, and most of the people on this blog, oppose divorce as a sinful action, either in all circumstances or in most circumstances.

The difference between divorce and homosexuality is that, first of all, it is a far simpler thing to keep people apart who want to engage in an illicit union with each other, than it is to keep people together who wish to remain apart. This is true for a number of reasons, which I'm not going to get into right now but I'm sure you can use your own internal reasoning to figure it out.

But also, divorce has been accepted by the general public in this country for a long time, and there is no realistic chance of the laws being tightened against those who do not take their vows seriously. Whereas, gay "marriage" is far less accepted by our society, and so what we're doing is trying to stop things from getting worse before they do, as we have a realistic chance of winning those battles.

As for your take on religious freedom, you might want to reconsider your all-or-nothing approach to liberty. Any of Madison's statements, if taken as comprehensive, would lead to absolute anarchy. Religious freedom, like all other freedoms, must be understood in context. It is a thing with definite boundaries. For instance, a man who believes he is religiously obligated to kill his neighbor is not therefore given license to do so.

For the Christian, all of life is religion. But all of life is not what the Founding Fathers were thinking of when they granted religious liberty. Nor is it what most people mean today. But then what does it mean? I have some ideas of my own, but instead of getting into it, I'm just going to encourage you to look deeper into the question yourself.
11.20.2009 | 9:42pm
Carol H. says:
"For our struggle is not against flesh&blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world&against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." Eph. 6:12 All the negative feedback about this Declaration is summed up in this verse and precisely the reason it needed to be written! There is "right&wrong" because God says it and one day we will all give an account. The Christian community needs to stand together on all these Biblical issues or face even greater consequences. God give us all the strength to stand for what is right or we will fall for anything. Thank you all for writing this & by the way, Muslims are not Christians so why would they even want to sign this? We would want them to come to faith in Jesus & let's all pray that that can happen! PTL!
11.20.2009 | 10:13pm
Guy Bishop says:
Before God and before all the angels of heaven I sign my name!!!!
11.20.2009 | 10:16pm
Brett says:
HERE is where you can sign the online version of the declaration:

http://manhattandeclaration.org/index.php
11.20.2009 | 11:18pm
Dan Johnson says:
This document faces several challenges. First, some of the signatories are known for being advocates of a certain hybrid of faith and politics. These generals of the Religious Right have tied their lives and legacy to that brand of Christianity that stakes out the two or three social hot buttons of evangelicalism and a Christian message that feels more like an American political platform than the Good News. These people--mostly men--made it difficult for other people of faith to build bridges with those outside the faith. Their signatures on a document that purports to lay forth a contemporary Christian creed, only serves to make it less reflective of historic Christianity and one more example of a timeless message being sacrificed by men with big mailing lists and larger egos. Second, for any message to transcend the clutter of modern society demands that it have clearly defined execution elements. And finally, though prominent religious men and women work hard to keep their name in the public, one wonders if a document like this has eternal significance since the Documents it is based on speak nicely for themselves.
11.20.2009 | 11:29pm
Like some of the other commentators, I would have embraced this excellent declaration with even more enthusiasm but for certain omissions, e.g. a stated opposition to warmongering for the American Empire in the Middle East.

I would concur also with JTJ that the Islamic community should not be omitted from a grand coalition against paganism, and with James Nuechterlein that non-evangelical Protestants should receive an explicit welcome. I would laud the Mormons as well for their wonderfully effective effort in the fight for Proposition 8.

Finally, let me second the Rev. Paul T. McCain that “When the house is on fire, one grabs buckets of water from whomever and wherever ….”
11.21.2009 | 6:24am
Authors - thank you for your work. I stand with your Manhattan Declaration.

Liberals/Progressives - as a former adherent to your ideology, I implore you to examine historical truth and reconcile your findings with your better instincts. Study the Bible - you may discover the greatest epiphany of your life.
11.21.2009 | 6:58am
ahem says:
Points:

1. Nowhere does it state it is against interracial marriage or against minorities; it's not. In fact, it quotes Martin Luther King Jr. Seeing life solely through the prism of race is the result of 30 + years of marxist propaganda. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

2. It does not come out against gay "marriage" because Christians hate gays. (Some so-called "Christians" may, indeed, hate gays, but they are not genuine Christians.) The declaration comes out against gay "marriage" because it seeks to prevent the government from making a sacrament of the church illegal. In a secular society--as we are--homosexuals are entitled to full rights under the law, through civil means. But the word, "marriage", must not be redefined. If that were to happen, the government would, in essence, be making Christianity illegal. The declaration is a preemptive strike against that idea. You wouldn't want to redefine the word, "murder", either, would you?

3. This call to action is not limited to Christians alone. Unfortunately, the document missed a great opportunity to make that more explicit by stating that the acceptance of abortion has, in reality, de-sanctified everyone's life. Acceptance of abortion is a symptom of a deadly, underlying societal disease under which everyone's life may be sacrificed at the altar of utilitarianism. The Manhattan Declaration is, in fact, pro-life: yours, mine--everyone's. I personally feel it could have reached out farther to enlist other people of good will, who also realize this, but it is what it is.

4. It is not against providing care to the weakest in society; it is against creating inhuman, utilitarian edifices that would subject the dignity and sacredness of human life to the demands of the political "bottom line". As Christians, we don't value a human life in terms of dollars and cents; politicians do--especially if their careers hang in the balance. For evidence of this you need look no farther than the NHS in the UK, which is a veritable meat-grinder of rationing, death and inhumanity. Do we really want this for our children? For the elderly? The weak? The poor? There are more humane and creative ways to care for our fellow man, without losing our humanity and our freedom.

5. I would also point out--as kindly as I can--that a proliferation of sects who believe in sola scriptura has resulted in a vast population of christians who are traveling farther and farther away from the original bedrock of doctrine. The Bible is not whatever you may happen to think it is; the Bible is what the church fathers and ecumenical councils determined it to be--1500 to 2000 years ago.
11.21.2009 | 7:02am
Anthony S. "Tony" Lane:

Thanks kindly for your response. I think it should be borne well in mind that there is a classical philosophical foundation, which wants to protect the archetypal images of Mankind; to keep the genders in their distinctness and all their concreteness; to recognize the eternal patterns of historical man; to grant to the male its supremacy in matters of chasteness; to keep to tradition for philosophical reasons; to pay homage to ancestry and to favor a nationalism and regionalism over a soft globalism; and to lay claim to the acceptable Platonic images of the eternal in man. This, without needing to care if Church and State are separated: Let them remain so; these still hold. When one uses philosophy to bolster up tradition and to shore up boundaries, there can be no separation of Church and state argument to drive the wedge in. Natural Law and the idea of "God" are actually Thomistic concepts and are philosophical rather than purely religious. They are an opponent in a psychological sense, as well, to the modern psychology movement. Many so-called "secularists" do not go along with a good 80% of what has been done in their name, and a great deal more.
11.21.2009 | 7:57am
James Sparks says:
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..."

Insofar as current policies and powers stand against the very sentiments of Christian conscience, in spirit there is already a separation that could become a first cause leading to dissolution of political bands, but pray it not become so. Nonetheless, a true alteration of government is required from within, meaning a repentant spiritual renewal of the people of the nation, who are still indeed "the government." This Manhattan Declaration is an important step in that direction because it is a concise statement of leadership that can be taken up by all who rightly adhere to its tenets in good faith.
11.21.2009 | 7:58am
Al Wunsch says:
I congratulate the signatories. When dealing with the type of government we currently have here in the U.S. I see no other way than to serve such notice. We need to do so on a number of fronts (taxation, energy etc.) until we can vote out the secular progressives that are ruining this country.
11.21.2009 | 9:36am
Marricllc says:
What would our lives be without the precious freedoms we enjoy, including the right to such vigorous debate in the public forum? Thank God for those of us of all creeds, who are willing to get down on our knees, acknowledge our national sins against the Source of these "inalienable rights", then stand together for the honest truth.

Gratitude is always more effective than bitterness.

Perhaps our Creator, in his mercy, will indeed then "hear from heaven and forgive their sin, and heal their land".
11.21.2009 | 9:38am
R Hampton says:
"But also, divorce has been accepted by the general public in this country for a long time, and there is no realistic chance of the laws being tightened against those who do not take their vows seriously."

That may be a valid political excuse, but it utterly fails as a Christian excuse. The declaration itself demonstrates that (conservative) Christians believe God's laws to be above those of the Constitution, regardless of public opinion -- except for divorce. How easy it is to become a "cafeteria" Christian...
11.21.2009 | 9:51am
Dennis Voss says:
Thanks, but again where are the Lutherans?
11.21.2009 | 10:41am
Uriel says:
Wonderful document and long overdue...but better late than never I suppose. May it bind and strengthen us all in the good fight...we will most certainly need each other morally, physically, and financially. It is good to see followers of Christ come together no matter where they came from...In LOVE yall,
Texas
11.21.2009 | 10:57am
Amen !!!
11.21.2009 | 11:13am
Kirstin says:
I agree that this declaration is an excellent (and overdue) step in the right direction. I commend and stand with all who have affixed their names and all who will. I'll sign it too.

Larry Miller and others who may agree with him: Respectfully, marriage is not a political or civil rights football to be tossed about. It is not a term that should be elasticized either. Too often those of us who support traditional marriage cave in to the modern idea that the marriage "battle" needs to be fought on the field of "equal rights." But not everything can be equal in this world. For instance, in a perfectly fair and equal world, blind people would be entitled to drive, regardless. But the physical reality of their situation doesn't permit it. In the case of marriage, the Manhattan Declaration eloquently makes the central point with which I totally agree: marriage is an sexual bond across the male/female divide, not one between members of the same sex. The word marriage denotes that special and unique bond. Marriage isn't about equal rights; it is about a biological (among other things) intercourse between opposites, about a union of the two. Only that kind of union can (notice I didn't say "must") naturally produce progeny. That reality isn't a legal point, it is a physical fact of nature and thus cannot be subject mandates of equality under man-made law. Attempts to change the definition of marriage, to expand it and dilute it, are unacceptable to many of us for this basic reason. That gay couples want to have a means of legalizing their relationships is undeniable, but for that purpose we have -- already -- civil unions.
11.21.2009 | 12:03pm
Victor says:
All this ranting post reminds me of Saint Thomas who was not present the first time Jesus appeared to His Apostles and well most Christian and non Christians know what happened and if they don't well...... Anyway forgive me Jesus for saying that I won't sign this document any more than when many were out to laugh at You while You were preaching in Your Father's Temple. These sinners tried everything in the book and they are still doing the same.

Forgive me again Jesus but why did You not tell them the whole truth when they passed You that coin? You surely knew that Your Father owned everything but still You were willing to give some of His Blessings to Caesar. What Love? Go Figure!

I would love to go on and on but what good would we get out of throwing rocks at each other "My Lord and My God"?

I'll close by saying that although I won't sign this document I still want to compliment everyone who has signed this historic document but now, who will remind you all that your Soul and Spirit are on the line and may God and His Angels have mercy on all U>S (usual sinners) flesh.

Peace
11.21.2009 | 12:20pm
Kathie says:
Thank you! Thank you!! Thank God for your leadership on this. And I, for one, will follow this lead. God bless you all !

To those who think this is crazy or not our right....it is our freedom of religion NOT to accept the unacceptable. It is in no way in conflict with separation of church and state because that is the biggest misnomer perped on society in the last 35 years. The separation of church and state was to keep the state our of our churches. And the state has crossed over that line big time.

Again, thank you all for doing what we have been praying for for so long! Together we must be as Christians!

Thank you, Mr. George, thank you Arb Wuerl, thank you all Christians for this!
11.21.2009 | 12:41pm
Kerry Patton says:
AMEN
11.21.2009 | 1:42pm
May God bless every stand for Truth and Christian Orthodoxy, and every faithful Christian ready to speak truth to power, regardless of the personal cost - Amen. And Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on all of us. We are all sinners being saved-healed by grace.
11.21.2009 | 2:45pm
We signed. We support and stand with the Manhattan Declaration!
11.21.2009 | 3:08pm
Boria says:
A Declaration by Christians taking a stand for life, for heterosexual marriage, and religious liberty does not need any apology before or after. Our Judeo-Christian ethic is the greatest force for good in the history of the World (Period). Furthermore, any advocacy for (1) socialism or (2) communism or (3) Shariah law or (4) an Islamic state or (5) segregation or (6) slavery is immoral. Progressives, the homosexual lobby, atheists, and Moslems cannot refute the Manhattan Declaration or any of the above except accuse us of bigotry (The last refuge of scoundrels) because they do not have a moral foundation to stand on.A Blessed Thanksgiving to all, Cheers!
11.21.2009 | 5:01pm
"As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." Where do I sign?
11.21.2009 | 5:47pm
Fr. Robert Lyons (who posted Nov. 20, above) writes that "the Church today, while inheriting the legacy (for good or for ill) of the many crimes of her children of an earlier age, is no more responsible for the Crusades or burning people at the stake than an officer in the US Army is today for the firebombing of Dresden, Germany in WWII."

Fr. Lyons' general point--that the Church is not necessarily responsible for the mistakes of her individual children--is a good one. Unfortunately, he also repeats the widespread, but profoundly mistaken, notion that the crusades were a "crime."

They were not. They were a step in the natural development of Christian attempts, over many centuries, to stem the tide of Muslim onslaughts against Christianity which had begun in the 7th century and had been carried out continually up until the time of the crusades...and beyond.

Crusade historians today generally recognize the role that crusading played in this wider picture of Christianity's attempts to defend itself. Unfortunately, we (I am myself a crusade historian) have not done a very good job of educating the general public on our subject of study.

I recommend reading Thomas Madden's excellent book A New Concise History of the Crusades to get a better sense of what really happened in the crusades. An even shorter, but very good, book is Jonathan Riley-Smith's What Were the Crusades?, now in its 4th edition.

Unless one thinks that Americans, Britons and Canadians need to apologize to Germans for June 6, 1945, then Christians need feel no imperative to apologize for the crusades. Like the Normandy invasion, the crusades were attempts to fend off attacks, liberate conquered peoples, and recover lost territory. Like the Normandy invasion, the crusades saw much bloodshed and, doubtless, much cruelty on both sides.

But unless defense of oneself, one's religion, and one's fellows is a crime, then the crusades were not a crime, and need no apologies.
11.21.2009 | 5:53pm
The Manhattan Declaration, seems to me to indeed be a clear and concise "Call of Christian Conscience". I appreciate its long historical understanding of what the Christian worldview is up against even in this most post-modern culture.

Many in the Church have forgotten, or ignored, what believers in the past have endured to faithfully and rigourously speak the truth.

Of course, those more enamoured of the fellowship of gates of hell would seek to oppose - as evidenced by some of the above comments - but, greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world.
11.21.2009 | 6:00pm
Steve P says:
Thank you. Fox News covered your declaration this week and they aired a clip of a particularly thuggish critic who said of it: 'It is just old fashioned thinking. People don't want that anymore'. The utter stupidity took my breath away. It really did.
11.21.2009 | 6:26pm
leyla says:
this made my day. we are all the body of Christ coming together on the important moral issues to combat evil in our time. This kind of behavior has never and will never be understood by those who are more interested in grinding their sorry axes. In Jesus and Mary, I salute you!
11.21.2009 | 6:32pm
Jerry Reeves says:
ount me in.
11.21.2009 | 6:53pm
Excellent. Sure happy to know I have God behind me. Good job everyone as you have provided even more inspiration to keep on, keeping on....even as Christ tarries...

God bless.
11.21.2009 | 6:55pm
Anne says:
Count me in also.
11.21.2009 | 6:59pm
Please, for the one who said, "Again, where are the lutherans?"

Trust me, I am not a lutheran but that gave me pause as I was quickly scrolling through comments people left.

Last type I glimpsed those already around the throne of God, they were of all kindreds, tongues and peoples....didn't see any lutherans, on the other hand, didn't see any catholics either...just a whole lot of people in white robes...awaiting...I think...the rest of us.

Be careful
11.21.2009 | 7:01pm
Dale Yoder says:
Count me in!
11.21.2009 | 7:06pm
I AGREE WITH THIS DECLARATION.
11.21.2009 | 7:07pm
I support this effort
11.21.2009 | 7:08pm
Cher F. says:
To stand up for Christ and the truth is to choose the hard, narrow, unpopular way. The other way is wide and we know where it leads. We knew this time would come. Now that it is here, I will stand up with all those who have the courage to stand up for Christ, for the truth, for life, for family for all those things Jesus taught. Not an easy path, but for me, the only path. By the way, many Muslems ARE Christians who believe and follow Christ. Please, have courage and join us. Forgive those of us who simply didn't know this.
11.21.2009 | 7:08pm
Thank God for those who will stand against the politically correct who use it to brainwash those people of faith. It makes my heart glad and ignites new hope for the righteous believers in Christ to be able to live out their faith.
11.21.2009 | 7:09pm
I support and stand with the Manhattan Declaration,and have signed
11.21.2009 | 7:09pm
Our country was founded by those who were persecuted for their freedom to worship, obey and speak freely of their love for the Lord Jesus Christ by those who were "making the rules," without the Bible as their guide. In fact, many of them not only forbade others to have and read the Holy Scriptures, they themselves viloated the very Book by persecuting the dearest of Jesus' saints who sought to live for Him. This is again happening in America, as the core values that express our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness (virtue), are being undermined by those of the atheist and antichrist persuison pushing abortion and sodomite tolerance. I stand against them in Jesus' Name.
11.21.2009 | 7:10pm
I am glad to sign
11.21.2009 | 7:10pm
Where do I sign. This is at least two decades too late.
11.21.2009 | 7:11pm
Paul says:
Makes me wonder if it is 1989 or 2009... Back then Reagan and JP2 were catalysts for fall of USSR... Are Obama and Benedict catalysts for Reunification of the Church?... A huge part of the Anglican/Episcopal church has rejoined Rome.. An Orthodox patriarch in Europe is driving with full effort to reunification.. In his words.. an Orthodox will not become a Catholic. or vice versa... but rather we will all approach the altar together! How cool is this!
11.21.2009 | 7:15pm
If we do not stand for what is right, we will have to stand for the consequinces. Our nation is now reaping the harvest of no moral direction, seeds of which were planted in the 1950's and 60's when God was kicked out of our schools, and His Word made illegal. God-fearing men and women must step forward and take a stand for truth, righteousness and integrity.
11.21.2009 | 7:17pm
Sylvia Ryan says:
Thank God for the unity of the Body at this time.
11.21.2009 | 7:21pm
Richard Rone says:
It is tremendous to see the believers standing and not shrinking back from the gospel. In the early church they chose the cross to getting a license from Ceasar to practice their faith. The church made a mistake in taking a tax exemption from the government in the early 1900's. We gave the government the right to say who was and who wasn't a church.
The Lord proved His love for the sinner when He died for us on the cross, He loves the sinner and hates the sin. Denying responsibility in our sin doesn't make it go away only admitting it and repenting of it. Our nation is at the brink and only repenting and turning to Him can bring it back.
11.21.2009 | 7:22pm
Doris Hastey says:
It is amazing to me that when a Christian takes a stand or makes a statement regarding her or his belief or views, suddenly freedom of speech goes out the window and you have violated a hate crime or are a biggot. But the most vile things can spew from the mouths of those against our beliefs and it is called foreward thinking commentary. It is time to stand.
11.21.2009 | 7:23pm
arlene says:
AMEN
11.21.2009 | 7:25pm
As senior pastor of a non-denominational fellowship with more than 40 denominations joining together for worship and service, I applaud this declaration of affirmation to our founding faith.
11.21.2009 | 7:27pm
Count me in.
11.21.2009 | 7:29pm
Absolutely awesome! Well done Signatories! I'm certainly in....
11.21.2009 | 7:33pm
As a Greek Orthodox christain, I am compelled to endose this declaration , these
Christain pricnciples are foundation stones of our life on this earth, Lord Jesus Christ
son of God, Savior have mercy on us, In name of The Father, Son and Holy Ghost!
11.21.2009 | 7:34pm
HE GAVE HIS LIFE FOR ME. THAT I MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
I WILL GAVE MY LIFE FOR HIM .MY LORD AND SAVIOUR.
WAYNE BUTLER NEW JERSEY
11.21.2009 | 7:38pm
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is long overdue.
11.21.2009 | 7:40pm
pam beckwith says:
i think all christians should stand up for the truth once and for all. forget all the humanistic ways of this world and remember from where we came . we will all stand before God one day and give an account for every word spoken. please let it be for the good.
11.21.2009 | 7:48pm
Huguette says:
History has proven that a civilization that eliminates God , that civilization crumbles. The time is coming when America will experience that same wrath and Chrisians wil be hated and martyrdom will return. The middle class will be eliminated, and society will revolt. Without God , only chaos exits. Pray much, and be ready to "seal" you homes in God's love, which is all that counts.
11.21.2009 | 7:54pm
Lynne says:
The battlelines are being drawn! Pray without ceasing! It may not be easy to stand up and be counted but stand we must! I wonder how many there will be?
11.21.2009 | 7:56pm
Sign me up. God forgive us for waiting so long.
11.21.2009 | 8:21pm
Donald Boyle says:
God Bless all who participated in this event.
11.21.2009 | 8:22pm
Thank you for beginning a project that anyone can join. This is for any committed Christian who wants a society with morals and right behavior.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
11.21.2009 | 8:23pm
Gail F says:
The people objecting to the parts about marriage being by definition between a man and a woman are certainly free to do so -- but the people who wrote the declaration believe it, and they wrote it.

The people objecting that war should be included are free to their beliefs about war -- but the people who wrote the declaration don't agree, and they wrote it.

The people who wrote the declaration do not agree on divorce, so they did not put it in because the declaration is about what they do agree on.

The people who wrote the declaration had to limit their numbers at some point, so one would expect that (given the thousands of Christian denominations) some Christians who would like to be counted among them got left out. There is really no reason to be surprised that Muslims and secularists were not included among the drafters of a Christian document -- and there is no reason to suppose that they would not be gratefully welcomed among the supporters of its conclusions.

It seems to me ungracious to demand that a document be about what the reader wants it to be about, rather than what the writers want it to be about, and to prefer that different people had written it. Either you read it and agree, glad that SOMEONE wrote it, or you read it and disagree, angry at WHOEVER wrote it.

I'm just sayin'.
11.21.2009 | 8:33pm
Steve Ziner says:
The "Manhattan Declaration: A Call of Christian Conscience" is of profound value.

Much of the "comments" are of no value. Similar to the time of LuthMartin Luther (10 November 1483 – 18 February 1546) initiated the Protestant Reformation.[1] As a priest and theology professor, he confronted indulgence salesman John Tetzel with his The Ninety-Five Theses in 1517.

Corrupting God's word and God's will is sinful. Trying to replace God's will with man's is sinful. Therefore listening to the misguided comments helps me understand the phrase "many will be called but few will be chosen." We live a life of free will, a life of choices, everything you are or ever will be is a result of the choices you make. Spend your choices wisely according to both the Old Testament and New Testament.

Many are at peace with God's word. Many are tormented and may never be at peace. That is just the way it is. Read the Book of Job. Read Joshua.
11.21.2009 | 10:49pm
liberty60 says:
OK...add my voice to those wondering why some issues like gay marriage get full throated thunderous opposition, but a war started on outright lies, violating the basic premise of a "just war" is either opposed with the softest of mutterings, or in some case openly supported.
11.21.2009 | 11:13pm
May the LORD bless you for this declaration of the basic values of Good vs. Evil.
I see the end of the United States of America unless we as a nation recognize that the falling away from the values as set forth by G-D, and reiterated by the founding fathers, and take positive action to return to these values.
Make no mistake.........G-D will not be mocked!
11.21.2009 | 11:21pm
Hurshel says:
This is great and very timely. It's time we let the devil know that God is foremost in this country and some of us are willing to sacrifice our all to see that it stays that way until he returns.
11.21.2009 | 11:22pm
From the declaration:
"It is ironic that those who today assert a right to kill the unborn, aged and disabled and also a right to engage in immoral sexual practices,..."

Geez, what nuttiness. I understand that abortions are contentious so I will pass on the phrase "kill the unborn" but the nonsense about killing the aged and disabled is just plain paranoid stupid cult nonsense. And, I do mean cult. Just because Christianity has lots of members doesn't mean it isn't a cult. I frankly don't see it any different than Scientology, just a bunch of nonsense with a good dose of childish self-centeredness.

And, there are millions of citizens who don't want this religious stuff shoved down our throats. I certainly don't want our government contradicting what I tell my children. This is still America and we have the right to ignore and be free from the inappropriate demands and constant whining of religious cults seeking special rights.
11.21.2009 | 11:51pm
Lisa says:
Thank you Jesus. I stand with my brothers and sisters in Christ who have come together with this powerful unified declaration of our Lord's truths that He has declared for us in His Holy Word. My prayer is that our nation would be a shining example to the world in proclaiming the preciousness of each human life (from the unborn to the elderly). Each life is precious. If all Americans could even agree on that can you imagine how our culture of violence and or death would radically change? Could we be a society that values a culture of life? When the most blessed nation in the world fails to protect its smallest and most vulnerable citizens, what does that say to the rest of the world....what are we saying to God? May God bless every stand for truth that is shared in this declaration. Our family will be signing the declaration. May God bless America.
11.22.2009 | 12:06am
Dari says:
It is so uplifting to finally hear the voices of courage. The progressive movement in
this country has a goal to dismantle our country as founded by our Founders. A moral and right society is one that has the experience deadicated to profound study of
human behavior. Our founders were of many faiths, and founded America under GOD
11.22.2009 | 12:54am
In this wide and diverse coalition against the onslaught of paganism, let us not forget to invite our Jewish brothers and sisters who revere the Old Testament. We very much need Mona Charen, et. al.
11.22.2009 | 5:25am
I read the declaration last night. Can someone tell me how it stands on Civil Unions? I see the reference to "In New Jersey, after the establishment of a quasi-marital “civil unions” scheme, a Methodist institution was stripped of its tax exempt status..."

Does this mean that signers of the Manhattan Declaration are unilaterally against civil unions, or are there cases where they would consider civil unions given "conscious protections"?

Appreciate someone clarifying this one point. Thanks
11.22.2009 | 5:41am
Wendy Posh says:
Even if they take away our tax exemption which I can see could be avoided by discernment. So what, if we hold on to what charity is we can adjust. This may bring on true Christian Soldiers and a solidarity for believers who are the poor that Christ came to take with him.
11.22.2009 | 5:44am
Wendy Posh says:
Let us say they take away our tax exemption, which I see could be avoided by discernment. So what, this could bring on the true Christian soldier in solidarity with the poor. In other words I believe Christians will now see their authentic place in God's plan. I trust in the spirit of God that lives in all of us.
11.22.2009 | 5:53am
God willing and His Grace forthcoming, may I be among the first to give my flesh to the words of this momentous declaration.
11.22.2009 | 6:08am
Mark Howard says:
We stand with our brothers and sisters upon the rock that will not be moved, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
11.22.2009 | 6:42am
Christians everywhere and all God's people everywhere throughout the world must take a stand on the onslaught and attack on our values and natural law which is designed by God to make our lives peaceful, fruitful and joyful. The
evils which are being promoted now are an abomination promoted by
"humans" to process their own laws and ignore God"s Laws.
READ THE BIBLE AND FIND OUT.
11.22.2009 | 7:00am
magnoliabel says:
God will give us strength to do what is necessary with the evil people in control of our government.
11.22.2009 | 7:25am
Ann says:
I say "Amen" too! In recent months I have felt more and more like one of the early Christians, particularly as a resident of ME, where enormous hatred has been directed toward Christians and indeed, anyone who disagrees on the gay marriage issue. Since gay marriage was voted down, we've had death threats against Christians, demonstrations at Catholic churches, efforts to force individuals out of jobs and threats against the tax exempt status of churches. Now the state Ethics Commission is investigating the funding of Stand for Marriage, the group that upheld traditional marriage. The media here has left this unreported--beforehand, we had at least five articles daily encouraging/demanding we vote for gay marriage.

Like many of my friends, I was afraid to speak out against this totalitarianism for fear I'd lose business. More and more though, I am gaining the courage to speak out like these brave people. As they say, my first allegiance is to God.
11.22.2009 | 8:01am
I support and stand with the Manhattan Declaration
11.22.2009 | 8:04am
Henry Waga says:
I support and stand with the Manhattan Declaration
11.22.2009 | 8:06am
Jean Hughs says:
I support and stand with the Manhattan Declaration!
11.22.2009 | 8:24am
LoveFamily says:
Thanks be to God! We have been praying for some Thomas Mores with the faith, courage and goodness to stand up for truth. love, purity and peace and restore the world to sanity. Thank you all and God Bless you!
11.22.2009 | 8:44am
jay says:
Wonder where my denomination was? I saw not signers.
11.22.2009 | 9:25am
I support this Declacration 100%, Stand up Americans and once more Thank God.
11.22.2009 | 9:35am
Proud to be an American Conservative !
11.22.2009 | 9:42am
Jim Nite says:
If I can add my name to this, I would welcome the opportunity. Thank you.
Rev. Jim Nite, Senior Pastor, Center Point Community Church, Naples, Florida
11.22.2009 | 9:43am
I support and stand with the Manhattan Declaration.
11.22.2009 | 10:02am
Wesley Ellet says:
Amen!!

Now, how can I support this cause?
11.22.2009 | 10:24am
I hope those supporting this declaration will take a copy to their spiritual leader and demand his/her support before their congregation. Politicians will sweep this away as soon as presented. Only leadership from pastors and priests will cause proper consideration of this well considered declaration.
11.22.2009 | 10:38am
I support and stand with the Manhattan Declaration. God bless America!
11.22.2009 | 10:43am
John Morris says:
It is about time religious leaders stood up for our Christian principles. Great civilizations have been lost from corruption from within, not from enemies from without. We are becoming greatly corrupted by Hollywood, the press, and our own government. I applaud the Manhattan Declaration and will do what I can to support it.
11.22.2009 | 10:47am
Within the context of war, the United States, and other enlightened countries, most certainly train, discipline and prosecute their own soldiers to prevent and deter the intentional misuse, mistreatment or killing of innocent civilians and enemy combatants.
The international community also prosecutes war crimes by way of international tribunal for those responsible for the misuse, mistreatment or killing of the innocent under declaration of war.
Regretably, within our civilian culture, the same misuse, mistreatment and killing of the innocent is encouraged and promoted with great zeal.
11.22.2009 | 11:55am
A.J. DeFalco says:
This Declaration is surely a blessing from the Holy Spirit. It is an article of faith that this Holy Endeavor will succeed.
11.22.2009 | 12:03pm
Required says:
Remember, it's not enough to support it here; you have to sign it here: http://manhattandeclaration.org/index.php
11.22.2009 | 12:17pm
Bill Witten says:
The Lord is Great, isn't he? He takes such a travesty and turns it to a Just purpose! The infractions perpetrated by the current government of the United States could have had only bad outcomes but instead He uses it to unify His Church! I stand, as always, awed by Him. Praise His holy name.

Sign me up and reserve me a place at the gallows, if needed.
11.22.2009 | 12:54pm
Ronnie says:
Awesome.
11.22.2009 | 1:45pm
Our family is proud to be a signer of this declaration. Enough is enough.
11.22.2009 | 1:53pm
corrin says:
Glad to see there are some female signers, but looks like there are only about 10. I wish there were more.
11.22.2009 | 2:35pm
We are committed to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
11.22.2009 | 3:08pm
Jessica says:
There is ever difference between the legal definition of marriage partnership and the religious definition of the sacrament of marriage. The latter is defined by most Christian religions as exclusively between one man and one woman who are, in addition, not related to one another. In the recent past, this definition also excluded mean and women of different races from the sacrament of marriage, but that has mostly changed. The legal definition of marriage is a civil contract and set of legal rights and responsibilities, as well as a series of administrative details about how such a legal relationship may be revoked and the consequences on children and property. Apart from the word :marriage" these two things, the sacrament and the legal contact, have nothing whatever to do with one another. In the USA, this should be so (separation of church and state). It is only in places like Ireland or Iran where things like divorce cannot happen, however the electorate may vote, until the clergy agrees.

I am perfectly happy for any state to outlaw abortion on moral grounds who also outlaws war, preparation for war, and all related mechanisms and institutions of state sanctioned murder. Until they do, all this jawing about abortion just kills women who are prevented from getting medically supervised abortions. The main result of outlawing abortions is the radical increase in infanticide... same as the outlawing of divorce increases spousal murder and suicide.

Outlawing contraception and abortion is just an attempt to outlaw sex. I guarantee that this will be a total failure - always has been. always will be. Might as well try to pass a law against gravity.
11.22.2009 | 3:09pm
Laura says:
First of all, I don't see how ANY of you can say that marriage is not a political thing. What? You think that just because it is mentioned in the Bible?? Maybe it didn't start off that way, but it is certainly turned into it. Christianity for MILLENIA have been wrong and predjudice on serveral issues...why is not a possibilty that you are wrong about same-sex marriage? I have been with my partner for 4 YEARS...years! We have shared everything together and I love her with a love so pure and unconditional, that it is even hard for me the understand at times. Yet...if something were to happen to her (eg. a car wreck) I would not be able to see her. We pay taxes just the same as everyone else..yet we cannot file taxes jointly. If one of us were to die without a will, we would not be privledged to same intestate laws as a male and female couple. We cannot get health insurance for one another unless we get insurance outside of our companies and are ultimately DENIED every other CIVIL right under the law. God does not DENY anyone from equality, and when marriage was first created by God, they were not privy to all of the same rights that we have in America today for married couples. Those RIGHTS came about because of OUR GOVERNMENT. The ONLY "rights" that came from God was the "right" or "blessing" to have children. That's it. So how is marriage NOT a civil issue? Why are you people denying us of something that ultimately does NOT affect you. If your religious leaders don't want to marry us, fine. They don't have to...and therefore should not be forced to. But believe it or not, love is not limited to only heterosexuals. Love was NOT created by the church, but rather by God. So who are YOU to deny that right? Who are You to condemn it? You can't. You do not have the authority to do so. Why does me marrying my long term partner have to affect your marriage or faith? And why is it that when Christ Himself was here, he NEVER said anything against homosexuality? NEVER! Don't you think that if it was THAT big of a deal that Christ would have said something about it? He talked about your hypocracy. He warned about NOT being a pharasee...but yet you still act upon those very issues. The Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered (GLBT) community does NOT interfer in YOUR marriages and we even glady celebrate them with you. Why do you feel it neccessary to discriminate? That is not CHRISTIAN!!! HELLO????!!!! In this very "declaration" you deny the character of God and for what? To prove your righteousness or your complete and total ignorance-insipired bigotry? Is it not enough that you and your HATRED and CONTEMPT have killed off enough beautiful GLBT's? You have killed so many of us...driven us to suicide...spiritual and physical. Why must you continue to attack us? WHY? God doesn't. He LOVES us. I don't care if you have admitted your guilt about previous wrong-doings...I don't care if you admitt that you have been wrong about divorce, killing, torturing, raping, lying, deceitfulness, hatred, manipulation, racism, sexism, and/or other forms of bigotry...you have NEVER apologized! EVER! Murderers admitt that they have killed...but they never apologize. They never repent. Will you?

Another point: Saying that if you allow (which you have no authority to allow or disallow anything to begin with...especially something that was not created by you) gay marriage that you then have to allow polygamy and incest marriages or unions is DISGUSTINGLY closeminded and rediculous. First off...in the exact same passages that you find verses to clobber homosexuality, the Bible approves of polygamy, in fact, the beloved King David and Solomon had many wives and concubines and God NEVER said anything against that. So therefore you shouldn't have a problem with that anyway. Secondly: It has been proven that incest is HIGHLY harmful psychologically and if children result from such a relationship, they have physical problems and deformaties. So...such unions should not be allowed.

That it's..I'm done. Remember: Practice what you preach!
11.22.2009 | 3:26pm
V. L. Nutter says:
We are living in a post-Christian world. Satan has been loosed to weed out the lukewarm and cause as much destruction as possible in these last of the last days. Wake up Christians . . . the consummation of human history is imminent!

And the Lord said . . "And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"
11.22.2009 | 3:34pm
Craig Payne says:
Whenever I read the comments of non-believers attacking the "evil" of Christianity and Christian history, I always wonder why they do not illustrate the contrary, positive force in history, by listing the hundreds of schools and hospitals founded upon the uplifting vision of atheism. Or perhaps a selection throughout history of the alcoholics, addicts, prostitutes, and other social outcasts whose lives have been transformed by faith in the atheistic creed?

I'm sure all of us would be interested in seeing such a list. Any time in the next decade or so would be all right.
11.22.2009 | 4:36pm
Diogenes, WA says:
I was unable to find any mention, and condemnation of, the horrendous carnage perpetrated on the Middle East over the last two decades by the US Military...I hope and expect that will be rectified...
11.22.2009 | 5:45pm
Russ Lindahl says:
I gladly signed the Declaration. As war has finally hit our shores (9/11) so to persecution has come to the US. I take my stand for the gospel and all it's implications. I can do nothing else.
11.22.2009 | 5:56pm
Ars Artium says:
Love and deep friendship between two persons of the same sex has since ancient times been considered one of the greatest human goods. At the same time the fact that human beings are biologically male and female, two halves of a life-giving whole, is self-evident and, until now, unquestioned. If in one's private life a sexual relationship with a person of the same sex is desired, that is a matter of personal choice; a private matter. Conflict arises when everyone is required to agree that this type of relationship is the same as the life-giving union of a man and a woman. Legal rights of inheritance, visitation, and other matters can be straightened out. Attempts to force everyone to deny the plain sense of the matter cannot succeed except by force. That would be tyranny - the end of freedom.
11.22.2009 | 6:05pm
Bobbie says:
It's about time we who profess to be Christians, and in particular Catholics, stand up and not be afraid to voice our beliefs, whether in personal conversations, one-on-one discussions, group discussions and most importantly in the pulpit. I am grateful to see that the Bishop of our Phoenix Diocese is one of the signers.
11.22.2009 | 6:06pm
DaneW says:
Here, Here! Silent no more!
11.22.2009 | 6:09pm
Count me as a signatory. The moment I heard about this on the news I realized that for the first time in my life there was a reason for me to go to prison - not for my sake - but for all who believe in God and God's gift of the American Republic.
This is the culmination of a continuous assult against Christian principles over the past sixty years and the realization that there are those who wish to make it impossible for Christians to follow Christ.
Randal, Chicago
11.22.2009 | 6:09pm
We agree with the Manhattan Declaration, we have a heart for God and for life. We live in a culture of death, destruction of the family unit, decline in moral values and virtue. God's greatest commandment is to Love God with all our heart mind and soul, then second, to love your neighbor as yourself. This gives us an example of how to live.
We all have access. You can believe man or you can choose God. What do you Choose? God's bottom line is 1 John 5:11. Your eternal life depends on it.
11.22.2009 | 6:29pm
Thank you. I pray this declaration is widely accepted among all Christians.
11.22.2009 | 6:29pm
How can I in good conscience even pay taxes to a Federal Government that aborts, euthanizes, and unconstitutionally goes to war against innocent civilians?

The Federal Government doesn't even try to follow the Constitution?

How can my property belong to Caesar to commit murder, pillage, and robbery? The Federal Government no longer protects life, liberty, and property; it deliberately kills, incarcerates and steals from the innocent.

Do I stop paying taxes? Do I go into exile?

Greek Orthodox Archdiocese
11.22.2009 | 6:30pm
Wayne Kent says:
You can count on me---Thank GOD someone has finally stood up for our GOD giving Rights and the Declaration of Independent. Let this be a warning, to our Government that we will not stand around anymore and let our RIGHTS be taken a way from us. We will pray and fight to the last man for our GOD & Country!!!
11.22.2009 | 6:31pm
Colleen says:
I signed the Manhatten Declaration and appreciate all of the brave people who wrote and endorsed it.

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil,
who change darkness into light, and light into darkness,
who change bitter into sweet, and sweet into bitter!
Woe to those who are wise in their own sight, and prudent in their own esteem!
Woe to the champions at drinking wine,
the valiant at mixing strong drink!
To those who acquit the guilty for bribes,
and deprive the just man of his rights!
Therefore, as the tongue of fire licks up stubble,
as dry grass shrivels in the flame,
Even so their root shall become rotten
and their blossom scatter like dust;
For they have spurned the law of the Lord of hosts,
and scorned the word of the Holy One of Israel.

Isaiah 5:20-24
11.22.2009 | 6:48pm
Sue says:
I totally support this document. As do all things, I see that this too has been taken up as a political "football". How sad! I feel this has more to do with setting the record straight - there is nothing new written here - the truths are centuries old and in light of the "culture of death" that has gripped our world, those truths needed to be restated. Thanks to all who wrote and signed this declaration reminding us that we will always be at odds with the world. Let us go forward in faith, hope and charity.
11.22.2009 | 6:56pm
Bob G says:
To Laura:

Thanks for your post. It was interesting to read your message. But here's a question: why can't people in your camp understand that hurling insults (hypocrite, etc.) at the opposition is not an argument? Try to rebut the opponents rather than denounce them.

You say: "Christianity for MILLENIA have (sic) been wrong and predjudice on serveral issues...why is not a possibilty that you are wrong about same-sex marriage?"

On what issues has Christianity been wrong and prejudiced for millennia? That is, other than in the opinion of those who don't like what the Church taught? I'm not aware of any "issues" of this sort on which the Church has admitted error. I'm told that the Church has objected to, for example, abortion and homosexuality from day one. St. Paul has some strong strictures about the latter.

Personally I feel that if unchurched gay people want to live together, let them. But I'm not about to recognize homosexual unions as just as good as heterosexual. I have what I think sound reasons for this. Does that make me a bigot?
11.22.2009 | 7:08pm
THIS HAS BEEN TOO LONG COMING
11.22.2009 | 7:24pm
Julie Bauer says:
Thank the Good Lord for these religious leaders. Perhaps there is hope for our country returning to the Judeo Christian values upon which it was founded.
11.22.2009 | 7:39pm
Kerry says:
I am for this all the way.

I agree that this declaration is for individuals who share the same faith in GOD and Christ. We are here for a cause that we strongly believe in. So the question is for all non-believers, why do you waste your time here on this blog entitled a Manhattan Declaration for a call for Christian Conscience? Christian? Think about it. We don't need any more issues in this country. We are here to make a change. Stop worrying about the past and let's focus on the future. Make a difference now.
I will definitely sign this ASAP

GOD BLESS!!!

P.S. I will not respond to anyone's comments or disrespect. Thanks. Learn to agree to disagree.
11.22.2009 | 7:42pm
Paula Otano says:
Thank you for your time and efforts in putting this Declaration in place. "Declare(decree) a thing and it shall be established," Job.
11.22.2009 | 7:57pm
thank god i was losing hope.
11.22.2009 | 8:07pm
Bill Lang says:
In a culture where the churches have been given to compromising their moral and ethical values for too long, this document is an exciting first step. A quote from C S Lewis is most appropriate when he says the "The Church should be irreverent". We need to leave our fortresses(churches) and go into the streets to reclaim those streets for the Savior who died for us. Our actions should be spawned in love and our motivation the pathway of the cross.
11.22.2009 | 8:07pm
The second to the last sentence has very unchristian inplications. To ungrugingly render to Caesar may be very wrong. When govenment become too large and is itself responsible for many of the very problems cited in the statement above, it becomes wrong to ungrudgingly render to Caesar. Here is precisly where civil disobedience is required. Consider the 10 commandments, thou shall not steal or thou shall not covet thy neighbors goods speaks to the right of private property. Socialism is on the pathway to communism or some other form of state domination. Look at the spending in Washington DC right now - that is immoral! It is flatly not consistent with Christian values. That sentence is simply out of place and not consistent with the religious and the moral points being made.
11.22.2009 | 8:37pm
Nicely done. I'd sign this, too, if there were a place for it.
11.22.2009 | 8:56pm
Thank you. I pray this declaration is widely accepted among all Christians.
11.22.2009 | 8:57pm
Thank you Craig Payne for that recent comment. Excellent thought. I too will wait with baited breath for the list from those who appear to hate others so much. Talking of hate… how about Laura’s rant? Wow, she was writing out of anger that was totally out of control . And she had the gall to call those who agree with this declaration haters? I could not find any hint of hatred towards any person in that declaration. The mention of marriage and homosexuals never gave reason to believe that these folks hate homosexuals. And to suggest that it is them who have caused thousands [or more] suicides among the gay community is simply showing her ignorance of facts. She needs to read the results of doctors and others from years of study that prove that manic depression and other mental illness is found in a huge proportion of gay people. Gays are therefore showing the truth of Romans chapter one. In fact the latest research that I have seen clearly states that 75% of gays suffer from some form of mental illness, and that is not considering the thousands of gays who have never actually been to a doctor and been diagnosed. The percentage would obviously climb to a much higher figure!

And to those who rant on about Christians not wanting health care for every American???? Wow, how about a list of sick or injured people who have been denied medical care in this country over the past decade? I am not aware of any person being denied care. In fact if you care to enter any hospital you will see a sign that declares that this hospital is not allowed to deny you care, and they will give you whatever treatment that is necessary. Wake up, that is not what this health care bill is about at all.

I do wonder what difference this declaration will make, simply on the grounds of experience of years of ministry in this country, and witnessing so many “Christian’ leaders who have all ‘declared’ their strong faith and belief in God and His word, falling like rocks due to gross sins in their lives. Also my coming to know many others who admit to many daily sins in their lives, but continue to ‘fulfill the call of God’ to them to ‘equip the saints for works of service’. My bible clearly states that Christians have been set free from sin! In fact that is the very reason Jesus came was it not? She will give birth to a son and you will give him the name Jesus for He will save His people from their sin! {Mat. 1:21} Please notice, not save them from the consequences of their sin. Not until Christ’s followers repent [turn from their sins] will we see healing for this nation. [2 Chron. 7:14] Solomon said: you cannot whitewash your sins and get by with that, you find mercy by admitting them and leaving them! And Paul asked shall we continue to sin once we are Christ’s followers? His answer is easily understood……God forbid!! Wake up Christians! You are called to a life of holiness and righteousness and purity and beyond reproach and blamelessness etc etc. We are commanded to live as Christ lived, and if you don’t believe you can, then you are throwing the most wonderful gift God has for you right back in His face. Glad I will not be in your shoes on that day!!

How many of you original ‘signers’ tolerate sin in your lives? If you do then you are guaranteed to experience God’s wrath in one way or another. And He declares that He will not even hear your prayers if you tolerate sin in your life! Learn to hate sin as He does and you will begin to take the escape route that He has so graciously given you from every temptation. Fearing God is hating evil!
11.22.2009 | 10:09pm
I'm glad to be able to join in the fight
11.22.2009 | 11:11pm
it is time we are unified for the common good.
11.23.2009 | 12:00am
Tom says:
Words are cheap. Nothing Christians SAY (by way of apology or repentance, affirmation or declaration of intention, clarification of position or what have you) matters much anymore, if at all. Nobody who isn’t already on the inside listens to declarations like these. But many are still watching. What we DO matters. We ought to just shut up and go demonstrate what we believe (if we really believe it)—feed the poor, help the homeless, give orphans (those not aborted) our names, forgive those who willfully misunderstand and mistreat us, and a hundred other tangible ways to declare who we are and make a difference.
11.23.2009 | 4:52am
Boria says:
Go here to sign the Declaration. 29,000+ have already signed it and pass the word! www.manhattandeclaration.org

A Declaration by Christians taking a stand for life, for heterosexual marriage, and religious liberty does not need any apology before or after. Our Judeo-Christian ethic is the greatest force for good in the history of the World (Period). Furthermore, any advocacy for (1) socialism or (2) communism or (3) Shariah law or (4) an Islamic state or (5) segregation or (6) slavery is immoral. Progressives, the homosexual lobby, atheists, and Moslems cannot refute the Manhattan Declaration or any of the above except accuse us of bigotry (The last refuge of scoundrels) because they do not have a moral foundation to stand on.A Blessed Thanksgiving to all, Cheers!
11.23.2009 | 5:30am
Thank you for this declaration. Grace will help us keep our belief and Christian values alive. Jesus loves the sinner and will forgive. Have a Merry Christmas
11.23.2009 | 5:34am
Anthony says:
This is one small example of what we're up against in Maine. I believe we must speak up.

http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/7112507.html
11.23.2009 | 6:05am
I was lost and chirst came in my love and i don't feel lost anymore but i do have much to learn from him.
11.23.2009 | 6:12am
Rob says:
While I appreciate the sentiments of the declaration, I think there is a severe difference between this one and say the ones that the late Father Neuhuas used to piece together. There are a lot of names on this one and not all of them are big names. I mean....

"Juan Valdes Middle and High School Chaplain, Flordia Christian School (Miami, FL)"

Wow. Now that's a big name. I wonder if next time you can get the Middle and High School Chaplain from the Florida Christian School as opposed to the Flordia one mentioned here.

"Jim Law Senior Associate Pastor, First Baptist Church (Woodstock, GA)"

I hope the Junior Associate Pastor was not there. It's like the President and the VP; they simply should not travel in the same airplane.

"But under no circumstances will we render to Caesar what is God’s."

Uh huh. Sure. I'm fully expecting Catholic neocon George Weigel to get in line with the Holy Father and the late "Witness to Hope" he wrote about on Iraq. Didn't think so. Weigel is God's good servant but the GOP's first.

I'm glad to see so many Anglicans signing off on this document. Marriage has been cheapened and divorce too common. Never mind that their church was based on serving Caesar and granting him a divorce. Stick a fork in it boys. You either join Gene Robinson and John Spong or you head back to Rome.
11.23.2009 | 6:14am
David says:
I hear your voice oh lord calling me to use me as your hands and feet to do your will and support the manhattan declaration we have been silenced to long thank you oh lord
11.23.2009 | 6:41am
I am honored to put my signature to this declaration that so eloquently, thoroughly and humbly states the pure truth of our faith in God who allowed Himself to be humbled to the point of death for those whose wills He chose not to transgress.
11.23.2009 | 7:00am
Victor says:
Reading Laura’s comment has made me very UP SET with my sinful god, whoever my weakest cell of the day claims that he is, for having allowed these evil things to take place. For people to not know what is clearly wrong just boggles my mind that sin can muster UP such a defence but "What's New" I ask?

I know that Jesus said in so many words that if we want to be first, we should be last. I don’t know about most of you but I certainly don’t want to be first but as a Canadian, I could write a book on the injustices which have been done to me in my time and prove what I say at the same time. God says that we should forgive one another as quickly as we can but my Lord don’t you think that enough is enough?

I won’t get into the fact that my wife and I did our best to raise five girls and have always prayed for a good Canadian Government to support the family unit but while I was busy living and other families were busy working for the almighty dollar, our sins who honestly believed they are gods, were at work. And with the help of “The Sponsorship Issue” here in Canada, “same-sex-blessings” was passed and like Laura says in so many words, we should now just Shut UP, and learn to accept our punishment.

I ask “YOU BLESSED TRINITY” how many sinning gods must we worship nowadays. Is everything OK as long as the flesh agrees with the almighty dollar LORD?

That it's..I'm done. Remember: Practice what you preach! HEY MEN AND WOMAN?

God Bless,

Peace
11.23.2009 | 7:00am
Judy Wagner says:
Thank you for standing up and speaking the truth.
11.23.2009 | 7:15am
I want to be part of this document too. I want my signature on it as a small businessman.
11.23.2009 | 7:23am
pdn Michael says:
To Rob, I suggest a read of Jesus' comments on the behavior of the pharisees, especially their propensity to gravitate to the head of parades and seats of honor: "let it not be so among you." There are neither stars nor also-rans in the kingdom.

Boria is correct, and it occurs to me I've never seen 1) an apology from homosexuals on behalf of their co-belligerents who treated then-Cardinal Ratzinger so shamefully (throwing things at the altar??) several years ago in New York; 2) an apology from all the atheists and the "progressives" and their mouthpieces like, say, the NY Time and the three networks, to the people of Russia and Eastern Europe for the studied journalistic indifference to the "unspeakable brutality and savagery" perpetrated by the likes of Stalin and other "enlightened" communist despots; 3) an apology from the major news outlets for their ongoing complicity in the endangering of American citizens by pandering to terrorists who have made it very clear that they are our enemies and intend to kill us.

I was immensely gratified to notice the Declaration was signed by my bishop.
11.23.2009 | 7:45am
Don says:
We as Christians all know that the Bible has warned us that these things would come to pass. Our Lord Jesus Christ is not just knocking our our doors. He has stepped in, to become King of kings and Lord of lords.
11.23.2009 | 8:18am
mike toomey says:
great job you are in my prayers!!
11.23.2009 | 8:18am
Boris says:
To respond to Rob and his search for big names as signatories of the Declaration:
The support of a Jewish Carpenter will do just fine.
One said that 1000 regular folks can make a better decision than a PhD (or a politician). Cheers!
11.23.2009 | 8:33am
Jim Matteson says:
The underlying essence of the propositions in the Declaration is rooted in the concept of the authority of Scripture--has God spoken or has He not? There are many purported "holy books", is the Bible THE correct one? This is the discussion our culture is engaging in below the surface of the contents of the Declaration. In addition, the postmodern times in which we live decry absolutes, and add to that an increasingly secular state--the fruit of errant conclusions pertaining to the establishment clause in the constitution--one which tolerates religious pluralism while expressing repugnance toward the exclusive truth claims of Christianity and the outcry, therefore, from the opponents of the Declaration is predictable. As an evangelical Christian I am in agreement with the three tenants of the Declaration but remain unsure what purpose it serves. Who are the intended recipients of the Declaration--the White House, Congress, our state universities, the business community, the medical community, etc.? It seems that the Declaration is expressing a deep rooted frustration aimed at lawmakers, and while I am sympathetic to its premise at the same time I am persuaded it will fall on deaf ears, too much water has passed under the bridge and I fear the the once great United States of America is destined to become the Divided States of America; she has turned her back on God and the result is He has now turned His back on her and the degradation of our culture is the fruit of divine wrath. Regrettably, our nation and culture may go the way of the Roman Empire which in the end imploded from within as a result of moral decay.
11.23.2009 | 8:35am
Jim Matteson says:
The underlying essence of the propositions in the Declaration is rooted in the concept of the authority of Scripture--has God spoken or has He not? There are many purported "holy books", is the Bible THE correct one? This is the discussion our culture is engaging in below the surface of the contents of the Declaration. In addition, the postmodern times in which we live decry absolutes, and add to that an increasingly secular state--the fruit of errant conclusions pertaining to the establishment clause in the constitution--one which tolerates religious pluralism while expressing repugnance toward the exclusive truth claims of Christianity and the outcry, therefore, from the opponents of the Declaration is predictable. As an evangelical Christian I am in agreement with the three tenants of the Declaration but remain unsure what purpose it serves. Who are the intended recipients of the Declaration--the White House, Congress, our state universities, the business community, the medical community, etc.? It seems that the Declaration is expressing a deep rooted frustration aimed at lawmakers, and while I am sympathetic to its premise at the same time I am persuaded it will fall on deaf ears, too much water has passed under the bridge and I fear the the once great United States of America is destined to become the Divided States of America; she has turned her back on God and the result is He has now turned His back on her and the degradation of our culture is the fruit of divine wrath. Regrettably, our nation and culture may go the way of the Roman Empire which in the end imploded from within as a result of moral decay.
11.23.2009 | 8:42am
Steve Redder says:
Over the years I have watched the Catholic church craftily manipulate their flock(s) to bring the democrat party to uncontested power i.e Ted Kennedy etc-- now that the serpent has turned on them and begun to devour them they cry out for support from the protestant ranks. As a born again Christian I can not in a clear conscience support the Manhattan Declaration. Do I oppose the signatories goal ? No. But to support the declaration is to support the corruption which is the Catholic church.
11.23.2009 | 8:52am
I fullt support the declaration
11.23.2009 | 9:05am
Ben says:
It is amazing that people who fight for equality, understanding, and respect are the first to disrespect, disregard, and marginalize those whom they disagree with, namely Christians. The double standards of this culture are astounding. An atheist can be best friends with a Buddhist, a Hindu with a Muslim, but the second a Christian steps into the mix everybody is up in arms. There is no respect for Christians but yet we are expected to respect everyone else! There are laws being made AGAINST OUR BELIEF SYSTEM! Try passing any law that disrespects the gay community or Muslims in this country. You would be met with an enormous battle.

I'm thankful for this declaration. Is it missing some things? Probably. But it's about time Christians get up. We've been stepped on for too long and something needs to happen. You may not agree, but you don't have to. We've been told we have to, but we're not going to.
11.23.2009 | 9:07am
Daniel Gioia says:
The first person to speak out against slavery in history was St. Patrick.....history's first abolitionist.....1300 years before Wesley and Wilberforce.
11.23.2009 | 9:22am
It is time. The time is now. We stand together in His name to join in His aim to save the world. Can we not begin local rallies to show our unification. Thanks to everyone who joined in framing this Declaration.
11.23.2009 | 9:56am
Kevin Mears says:
This is a Call to action that we all need to respond.
11.23.2009 | 10:05am
Steve Redder says:
In response to Ben's comment: You expect respect? Rejoice that you are hated! Yes Christian need to get up, but leave the Catholics behind! People need to see how the catholic church has created this moral crisis in our nation. Catholics by and large vote democrat. In Michigan the Catholic democrat vote turns many state wide elections. The election of Democrat Governor Granholm for example. She is a south eastern Michigan Catholic who supports embryonic research (calling it pro-life) , she even went so far as to veto a state ban on partial birth abortion... and on and on it goes. Time and time again the Catholics elect and re-elect Catholic politicians who not only support immorality they advocate for it. Most Catholic politicians are catholic in name only. And the catholic church seldom says anything. No I will not support this Declaration. To do so would be sinful.

P.S: When the Christian community does get up if it gets up, you will see that there is but a small remnant of us.
11.23.2009 | 10:05am
May this be the beginning of a new reformation for the body of Jesus Christ.
Let us be community in Christ, sharing the good news in word and deed.

Revd. Kevin J. Jean
11.23.2009 | 10:22am
Steve Redder says:
I have no doubt if Jesus Christ would be censored on this site. Bye Bye.
11.23.2009 | 10:35am
Fitz says:
The Manhattan Declaration is on firm ground in its support of marriage. Indeed marriage quo "marriage" is a fundemental human right rooted in responsible procreation. The common law understanding is of neligable difference from the traditional Christian understanding. Indeed it is represented in article 16 of The U.N. Convention on Human Rights.

Those who disagree are misreading Supreme Court case law on the subject of marriage: you are making the same mistake the New York Court points out in its recent decision. Discussing the Supreme Court precedents of Turner v. Safley, 482 U.S. 78 (1987); Zablocki v. Redhail, 434 U.S. 374 (1978); Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967); Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965); Skinner v. Oklahoma, 316 U.S. 535 (1942)

Judge Graffeo noted….

“To ignore the meaning ascribed to the right to marry in these cases and substitute another meaning in its place is to redefine the right in question and to tear the resulting new right away from the very roots that caused the U.S. Supreme Court and this Court to recognize marriage as a fundamental right in the first place.”2
11.23.2009 | 10:38am
Steve Redder says:
I apologize. Thank you for posting my comments. Sincerely, Steve Redder
11.23.2009 | 10:43am
As human beings, created by God, we have the responsibility to obey His laws and proclaim His truth. We cannot allow evil and lies to rule and destroy us.
11.23.2009 | 10:56am
marcum says:
Margo said: "Also, President Obama has stated on several occasions that there would be no tax payer funded abortions in any health care reform bill."

Margo you are naive. Anyone can identy themselves as a Christian these days, as it's
easy to formulate a Jesus to your own ego satisfaction. A shameless marxist retreaded
ideology is not a friend of Christ, His church, and are proven to be unworthy of trust.
Obama is at the very least, a marxist sympathizer as witnessed by his track record,
his words, and without doubt his alliances.
11.23.2009 | 10:58am
marcum says:
I fully support the declaration also!

Pax bonum

Viva Cristo Rey!
11.23.2009 | 11:18am
Janet Beers says:
I fully support this declaration
11.23.2009 | 11:44am
Rebecca says:
BE A CHRIST FOLLOWER. JESUS CHRIST IS MY SAVIOR.
11.23.2009 | 11:56am
Martha Gish says:
I fully support this declaration
11.23.2009 | 12:05pm
we are sons of GOD, we follow Chist steps .Do not matter the cost with the help or the holly Virgen Mary
11.23.2009 | 12:12pm
Don says:
Wow, all these comments
Such a great forum and what a wonderful Declaration this is!
11.23.2009 | 12:15pm
I am so thankful for this Declaration. It is time for all Christians - regardless of what religion you lay claim to - to stand for what is right, good, true, and from God's Word. This land cannot tolerate these abuses from man and expect God to heal our land. Thank you to each of you who stand for God's purposes. I do hope that we all see good coming from this Declaration.
11.23.2009 | 12:49pm
Max says:
Rock solid. Long overdue. I second the motion and would sign if there was some way to do so (this will have to suffice). The criticisms from the left are unsupportable. If you want to pursue civil recourse for sin, go for it. If you want to form the latest "Church of What's Happening Now", go ahead. Just don't do either and try to claim it is consistent with Hebrew and Christian scripture and Christian tradition. Christian discipleship costs, that's just a fact. The critics remind me of Archbishop Chaput's commentary in his outstanding book "Render Unto Caesar" that the the liberalizers "want the eternity insurance of faith but refuse to pay the premium for it." Also the criticism of Weigel doesn't hold water. His well defended apologia on Catholic Just War Tradition speaks for itself. See also CCC 2302-2317. I'm also an OIF vet who, inter alia, excavated only some of Hussein's countless mass graves. Sorry liberals, you are wrong on that one too.
11.23.2009 | 12:56pm
I fully support this declaration.
11.23.2009 | 1:01pm
Judy Lester says:
To God be the glory as we stand as His representative until His return.
11.23.2009 | 1:11pm
Saw Chuck Colson on Huckabee and am excited about this declaration to stand for God's truth and the principles this country was founded on. I am 100 per cent behind it. Amen and God bless..............
11.23.2009 | 1:14pm
Marcus says:
I notice their aren't any signatures on this document from any of the theology or religion professors from any of the Nazarene universities or Nazarene Theological Seminary. It is well known that most of them adhere to extreme liberal views and are leaning in favor of gay marriage, embryonic stem cell research and abortion eventhough the Nazarene Manual is against these practices.
11.23.2009 | 1:35pm
James says:
Awesome, historic, tide-turning, supremely relevant, long-overdue. Just signed it.
52,110 signatures at 11/23/09 16:34 EST.

Read, ponder, and sign.

http://manhattandeclaration.org/
11.23.2009 | 1:52pm
JACQUELINE says:
As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. I'm all for this,
11.23.2009 | 2:03pm
Mirna says:
I am just an immmigrant granted citizenship of this great country. I trully believe on what this declaration says. This is what admire the most of this country " freedom of his people to speak and stand for what they belive in" even thou you can be stoned by others that do not agree with you.
May God Bless America and the future of our children.
11.23.2009 | 3:04pm
Its the right thing to do.
11.23.2009 | 3:25pm
R C says:
I have read the end of the book, we win
11.23.2009 | 3:26pm
WE LIVE IN A VERY TROUBLED WORLD, IT'S NEVER TO LATE FOR GODS' PEOPLE TO STILL "REPENT AND ACCEPT!" MANY OF US ARE KNOCKING ON THE LORDS' DOOR, "BUT ARE WE KNOCKING LOUD ENOUGH?" GOD ALWAYS LISTENS, BUT MAN MUST LOOK PAST HIS PRIDE AND ASK OUR PRECIOUS LORD FOR OUR SALVATION FROM ALL THAT SEEKS TO DESTROY US AND TURN US AWAY FROM THE ONE "TRUE" GOD, JESUS CHRIST! AMEN TO ALL PEOPLE AND TO ALL NATIONS THAT GOD HAS CREATED, MAY WE ALL FIND THE LIGHT THROUGH ALL THE DARKNESS. OUR DEAR LORDS' PLAN IS A MIRACULOUS PLAN, SO LET IT BE WRITTEN, SO LET IT BE DONE.
11.23.2009 | 4:04pm
Gary Nanfito says:
Concur wholeheartedly! Let's get back to the basics!
11.23.2009 | 4:30pm
sherri yoder says:
MAY GOD BE GLORIFIED THREW THIS, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ITS NOT ABOUT US IT'S ABOUT GOD
11.23.2009 | 4:32pm
MAY THE LORD HEAR OUR PRAYERS AND FORGIVE US OUR SINS
11.23.2009 | 4:36pm
Joe Tschida says:
Thank you for the leadership in bringing the people of Christian faiths together on the most important issue of our time. Unless the immoral behavior is curbed in our world, we may be looking at an increase in martyrdom. Let's hope that it doesn't come to that, but we must be ready.
11.23.2009 | 4:56pm
I am in complete support of this Declaration. And do feel that this will bring
about hardships that we must endure as followers of Christ. Christians througout the ages have suffered, only to make them stronger for Christ.
and his kingdom.
11.23.2009 | 4:59pm
Dan S. says:
Where are the moderates?

While the signatories certainly represent a wide range of perspectives, not everyone in the evangelical world who typically contributes to these types of ecumenical public policy collaboratives has endorsed the Manhattan Declaration.

Ron Sider, David Neff, Cornelius Plantinga and Sarah Sumner notwithstanding, I haven't noticed much support from the evangelical "moderate" camp (the constituency with which I tend to identify these days), including some who were instrumental in drafting last year's Evangelical Manifesto.

Noticeably absent from the Manhattan Declaration's signatories are names like Richard Mouw, David Gushee, Jim Skillen, Mark Noll, Dallas Willard, J.P. Moreland and Os Guinness. This doesn't mean it isn't an amazing feat of coalition-building (Neuhaus would be proud), but the narrow range of policy emphases could be a reason why some evangelicals have yet to sign on.
11.23.2009 | 5:09pm
We are living in a troubled world! Parents killing their children and children killing their parents. It is not uncommon these days to hear about another murder or other horrible crimes! What happened to morality and respect? We as christians and conservatives need to band together to find a way to wake up the sleeping, before the sleeping Giant devours all of us!
11.23.2009 | 5:39pm
Bryan says:
Just a few comments:
1) It is way too long.
2) The "culture of death" in the United States is rooted in our Revolutionary War and march to the West coast as a right under "manifest destiny." In our culture, we "fix" things by killing them.
3) Civil marriage is not the same as religious marriage. It is silly to equate opening civil marriage to all with a diminishment of religious marriage. My Catholic marriage of 33+ years, for example, would not be threatened if gay people participated in civil marriage. Civil marriage is a simple case of justice--to extend basic rights to gay couples. It is not a religious statement.
11.23.2009 | 5:41pm
I support the Manhattan Declaration. We live at a time in history that Christians must wake up and take a stand much like our founding fathers did. I stand with those willing to do so.
11.23.2009 | 5:50pm
its about time and think we should sand behind what we belive
11.23.2009 | 5:51pm
tim hatzer says:
in the end we win, but we need to contact all of congress and tell them this is are deal maker or breaker
11.23.2009 | 5:58pm
the defence of our core values as christians is what gives and maintains our distinctives as followers of the author of foundational truth. lose that and we lose everything; defend that and be branded - or jailed - or killed...SO WHAT?
11.23.2009 | 6:21pm
With many prayers and God's grace, we can get through this. Keep praying.
11.23.2009 | 6:29pm
Thank you all for putting forth a courage aligning itself with the forefathers of our nation. Unless good stands up to evil, evil will prevail. God's Word tells us that "we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers of darkness..." yep, and we need to wrestle; in prayer and in deed...what now of the "black plague?" Prayerfully we will soon see a growth in judges who recognize their role in our nation; that of enforcers of the law as it is written and not a role in which they change our nation to line up to their idea of a "direction" we should be going to get up to speed with the rest of the world. We ARE NOT and have never been aligned with the rest of the world. WE ARE one nation under God not at the beck and call of the rest of the world. II Chronicles 7:14 is a familiar passage that says it all..."If MY people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves, pray, seek, crave, and require of necessity My face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land." Again, thank you for your leadership. Courage will be called for.
11.23.2009 | 6:46pm
It is past time for the church to stand up for truth, justice, and the american way (which was once a safe harbor for the church) . We should have been been doing this all along and not fearing political correctness.
11.23.2009 | 6:46pm
Let us give back to God what is, His.
11.23.2009 | 6:48pm
Do you strongly disagree with the above document? Some of those posting sure seem to.

I wonder, did they (did you) read the entire thing? When posting your strong opinions, did you cite something specific in the document that you disagree with, and provide a good argument as to why?

So many seem to be negative towards anything Christian whatsoever, and might point in history to the Crusades or the Inquisition or mistreatment of scientists by the Catholic Church, but I wonder what Jesus has done to them, that makes them so mad against Him? All He's done is love you, die for you, and give you life. He continues to provide you with air to breathe, and another day to be thankful for (even if your name is Rom Houben -- the man who was mistakenly believed to be in a coma for 23 years).

Life is a precious gift, as is freedom of speech, political freedom, religious freedom, academic freedom, and so forth. Let's use these gifts for good, and not just to tear down things we have a grudge against. I believe that non-Christian beliefs (including many untrue beliefs within the Church) ultimately lead to heartache, frustration, harm and death -- but I would fight for the right of others to hold those beliefs, and feel safe and accepted within my society. Let's work together on the basis of common goals, and not tear one another down.
11.23.2009 | 7:29pm
To many places today try to keep God out...... We MUST keep Him in..
11.23.2009 | 8:06pm
Peggy says:
To Laura-Laura may God Bless you by openning your eyes to His Words-you say you don't see anything in the Bible about homosexual-Read in Romans 6: verses 26-32(there is many places where you can read about gayness (Laura did you ever read Gods Words? We are to either believe all Gods Words or none-there is no riding the fence(In Ephesians 5:15-33, do you see in verse 25 where it says husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the Church, and gave Himself for it? do you see that? it doesn't say husbands, love your husbands, or wives, love your wives does it? Yes we all sinned and fall short of the Glory of God...but Jesus made us right with God by paying our sin debt-but we are also called to repent(turn away from sin)..we are not to just keep on living in sin just because we think "well I'll go ahead and do it, and then ask for forgiveness-we all will stumble, but as Christians we need to try to please our Father in Heaven-we are not to just do want we want and think its ok-Yes Jesus loves all of us, but we are to REPENT..TURN AWAY FROM SIN- What about the story Sodom and Gomorrah...its was talking about gays,corruption-thats why it was destored, Lot was saved, his wife turned to look and turn to stone-no one here is judging you..but we are rying to share Gods Words with you so that you will be saved, enjoy the promise God made to us-He tells us To sin no more-so if you claim to be a Christian, we are suppose to talk to you, remind you..help you in this, pray for you(Please don't think I'm judging you, I'm only tryin to help) you say your gay, but if you truely love Jesus and are saved you will stop sleepin with this woman, and same goes for her-repent,,,stop, turn away..Call on Jesus to help you-I'm not saying we are perfect, because we do fall, but the hand of our heavely Father is there to lift us up-(Just read Gods Words for yourself) don't take anyones word for it if you don't want, read the Bible yourself-may God Bless each and every Christian here and may he remove the blinders from the eyes of those who do not know, or understand the Words of God our Father, Creator-and our Lord Jesus Christ(I'm glad this was made, I will sign too
11.23.2009 | 8:54pm
I FULLY SUPPORT THIS DECLARATION.
11.23.2009 | 9:01pm
Br. Timothy says:
I would just like offer that Paul Griffith's most unfortunate article on Natural Law/Natural Desire in the current issue of this magazine ruefully attacks the very truth to which the Christian community can and must appeal in its interactions with secular society. Natural Law (God's Eternal Law as known by reason) is the very basis on which a Christian may say, "not only do I object to abortion (substitute any number of other controversial issues) on religious grounds, but you yourself, Mr. secularist, are fully capable of recognizing the commonsensical reasoning for the moral evil of abortion." We do not outlaw murder because of a majority opinion; we outlaw murder because any thinking person can recognize its evil and the need for society to punish it. The same appeal to natural law explains the natural right to religious freedom, the true essence of marriage, and countless other basic moral truths whose acceptance or rejection largely determines the fate of society. Mr. Griffith's article, in its positively absurd and ludicrous consequences, feigns to deny the very fundamental truth about good and evil which our non-believing compatriots are fully capable of recognizing. The woeful implications of his ideas are far more broad than I can possibly describe. I RESPECTFULLY URGE THAT THE MOST FRUITFUL WAY TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION WILL BE TO DO SO ON THE BASIS OF NATURAL LAW, USING MR. GRIFFITHS' ARTICLE AS A LAUNCHING PAD. It really does make sense.
11.23.2009 | 9:17pm
12:10 A.M. 11/24/2009 Grace & Joseph Wagner: GOD Bless us all & grant us the courage to stand fast in this just cause. 17rosario@comcast.net
11.23.2009 | 9:20pm
I have no further comment, but I wholeheartedly support this declaration.
11.23.2009 | 9:24pm
Jennifer says:
Thank you everyone for coming together to protect the most vulnerable.
11.24.2009 | 5:21am
Praise our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
11.24.2009 | 6:03am
We need to stand together more than ever. I fully agree with this declaration
11.24.2009 | 6:12am
Boria says:
Br. Timothy: "Natural Law" is a smoke screen. It is either used to hide one's agnosticism or one's atheism or one's belief in or support of "reason" (or libertarianism). Jefferson and Ayn Rand fell in that trap voluntarily or involuntarily.
The Triune God has revealed Himself through the Holy Bible. If He expected us to abide by the Natural Law and "reason" he would not have given us the Judeo-Christian Law for our lives, starting with the 10 Commandments.
Please ponder this: If Man were born with reason, he would not need to go to school, would not need to be taught right from wrong, and would not need to be forgiven or forgive.
The greatest proponents of reason (Jean Jacques Rousseau, et al) brought us the reign of terror, socialism, communism, and totalitarianism... all for our own good! A bankrupt philosophy to say the least...
Have a Blessed Thanksgiving!
Cheers!
11.24.2009 | 7:24am
Very well thought out and truthful proclamation. It's time to draw a line in the sand and stand for the things that made this country great. As our founding fathers taught us, this nation was founded on Christian principles, not secular humanism.
11.24.2009 | 7:49am
Thank you for what you are doing and allowing people such as us to be a part of this battle for the preservation of America and religious freedom for believers in Jesus Christ.
11.24.2009 | 8:09am
We whole heartedly agree and are priviledged to sign this declaration.
11.24.2009 | 8:36am
I AGREE WHOLE HEARTLTY AND I BELIEVE THEY WE ALL NEED TO STAND TOGETHER, FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN. GOD IS THE ANSWER AND WHITH HIM ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE
11.24.2009 | 8:51am
It's funny how you xians run around removing people's civil rights (gays, women, non-xians) and still have the audacity to claim persecution. Priceless.
11.24.2009 | 9:21am
Joan Pitre says:
THANK YOU FOR CALLING US FORTH TO FOLLOW JESUS CHIST, OUR LORD AND OUR SAVIOR, WE AS CHRISTIANS NEEDED TO BE REMINDED OF THE WAY, TRUTH AND LIFE....LIFE AND RESPECT FOR LIFE ....MORAL, OBEDIENT AND WITH SELF-CONTROL
11.24.2009 | 9:23am
Bob Askew says:
The problem with the Manhattan Declaration is that it is so filled with error. Just the opening paragraph of the preamble is such a lie that the rest is irrelevant. The document lays a sand-foundation and builds upon it. And you know the story of the house built upon sand.

The Manhattan Declaration is "puff speak" written to fit into the lifestyle of 21st century evangelicals and designed to make the signers feel like they are standing for something as they go about their non-distinct, non-peculiar, non-transformed, day to day lives, blending into society rather than being a light in the darkness.

It is a feel-good document that really proves nothing.

It is a meaningless, pseudo-badge of honor to those who proudly sign it, thinking they are standing for God when it has been months since any one of them actually witnessed personally to a real lost person or attempted to win any one individual to the Lord or attempted to provide actual and practical help to a homeless person as Jesus commanded.

Let those who sign the Manhattan Declaration practice what they pompously preach.

Let those who sign the Manhattan Declaration adopt an unwanted, handicapped child!

Let those who sign it pay the hospital bill of a terminally ill cancer patient or an AIDS patient slowly dying for five years.

Let those who sign it volunteer 5 hours a week sitting with an Alzheimer's patient so the caregiver can have a few moments of cherished personal time to rest.

Let those who sign it put their money where their self-righteous mouth is.
11.24.2009 | 9:36am
Fred Gant says:
May God bless the spiritual leaders of this country as they take such an important step forward. The clergy had such an important role in the very foundations of this nation, and it is only appropriate that the clergy play an important role in preserving those foundations. We will see God's blessings on this nation only as we turn away from man's solutions and back to HIS solutions.
11.24.2009 | 9:42am
If this nation does not turn back to God, I believe he will bring us down. Unfortunately our children and grandchildren will be the biggest losers.
11.24.2009 | 10:40am
DEO GRACIAS!
11.24.2009 | 10:41am
Does Rev. Bonhoefer's "Cost of Discipleship" come to mind? Can't imagine why would anyone who self-identifies as a "confessional Christian" could not sign on to this statement. "When Christ calls a man, He bids him come and die."
11.24.2009 | 10:47am
Craig Payne says:
I am always truly amazed at the utter viciousness of some. How do these critics know so infallibly the beliefs, motivations, and practices of the signers of this Declaration? How do they omnisciently perceive the spiritual bankruptcy of their fellow Christians who happen to disagree with them on this or that point?

"Self-righteous mouth," indeed.
11.24.2009 | 11:34am
It is by grace that we are saved. The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord. We need to love but be accountable for our actions.
It is time that we pray for our nation. God Bless
11.24.2009 | 12:03pm
Pure, simple bigotry hiding behind the Church. Please, folks, read my column on Examiner.com: Tucson Liberal Christian Examiner. I deal with these and other aspects of the liberal Church. And by the way, Catholics with a conscience, remember you're more than welcome in the Episcopal Church! Turn about is fair play!
11.24.2009 | 12:26pm
Boria says:
Benjamin Dover: Try out the civil rights you mentioned in the Moslem World or the Third World or the Totalitarian/Communist World. Come and tell us about how things went, you hear!
Cheers!
11.24.2009 | 2:43pm
sal fusco says:
I've been looking for this declaration for the last thirty years. Next we christians should stand up against the cesspool that they call Hollywood. God bless the signers, better late than never.
11.24.2009 | 4:05pm
Craig Payne says:
Craig Payne said: "I am always truly amazed at the utter viciousness of some. How do these critics know so infallibly the beliefs, motivations, and practices of the signers of this Declaration? How do they omnisciently perceive the spiritual bankruptcy of their fellow Christians who happen to disagree with them on this or that point?"

Margot Fernandez said: "Pure, simple bigotry hiding behind the Church."

Craig Payne says: "Q.E.D."
11.24.2009 | 4:07pm
Dan S. says:
There's certainly a wide range of perspectives represented among the signatories, but not everyone in the evangelical world who typically contributes to these types of ecumenical public policy collaboratives has endorsed the MD.

Ron Sider, David Neff, Cornelius Plantinga and Dennis Hollinger notwithstanding, I haven't noticed much support from the evangelical "moderate" camp, including some who were instrumental in drafting last year's Evangelical Manifesto.

Noticeably absent from the Manhattan Declaration's signatories are respected evangelical scholars like Richard Mouw, David Gushee, Jim Skillen, Mark Noll, Stephen Monsma, Nicholas Wolterstorff, Dallas Willard, J.P. Moreland and Os Guinness.

This doesn't mean it isn't an amazing feat of coalition-building (Neuhaus would be proud), but the narrow range of policy emphases could be a reason why some evangelicals have yet to sign on.
11.24.2009 | 5:06pm
Thank you to all who put this together !!! at last a voice standing up for us who oppose the abortion of millions! walk the walk and talk the talk!
11.24.2009 | 5:22pm
Bret Dempsey says:
Boria,

Christians all over the world die daily for a variety of trivial offenses. "That's how things went." That doesn't justify those ignorant actions or your less than intelligent opinion. You and I both have the right to practice our faith or lack thereof freely. Thank God, and God bless America for that.

God bless you as well prodigal one.
11.24.2009 | 5:23pm
all I can think of to say is "AMEN" !
11.24.2009 | 5:26pm
Hal Hughes says:
IT IS TIME FOR ALL CHRISTIANS TO LIVE UP TO CHRIST'S TEACHINGS.
11.24.2009 | 5:27pm
Where can I sign! It is too bad we all believe in the same entity (GOD)
However, everyone treats Him (not her) like he is their own personal savior for their own religion or cause. Hence JIHAD. Why CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG AND JUST OBEY THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, instead of bending them to fit our own personal needs? Almost every war has been fought over religious ideologies
Why is everybody right and by being wrong in doing so?
11.24.2009 | 5:30pm
We agree wholeheartedly and proudly sign this declaration.
11.24.2009 | 5:35pm
Words matter. Actions are stronger. Prayer is even stronger. All must be done to overcome evil.
11.24.2009 | 5:35pm
The liberal policies of the federal government are dividing the people of the United States, making our country weak and are slanted to protect minorities. All Americans stand together one nation under GOD and minorities need no protection under GOD. We need to teach prayer in school and help our society become submissive to GOD retuning to the roots of our country.
11.24.2009 | 5:38pm
Let us love and respect all life!
11.24.2009 | 5:38pm
IT IS WRITTEN:"yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." [Romans 3:4] If those offended by TRUTH then they are offended by God. There is NO ONE that can prove from GOD'S WORD that this in His will, and it is a Pastors requirement of God to warn you NOT TO TAKE COMMUNION if you are in offence of His Word, His Will. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU READ THE BOOK. Last but not least IT IS WRITTEN ALSO: "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." [James 1:5]
11.24.2009 | 5:38pm
A world cannot exist without God and without inhabitants. That's why Almighty GOD CREATED US. The only way to stop the madness going on in this world is to STOP killing the future inhabitants that live in the womb, who are meant to live in this world. Pray, pray, pray!
11.24.2009 | 5:39pm
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND OUR NATION WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS DOCUMENT AND ACT ACCODINGLY
11.24.2009 | 5:40pm
I support this declaration and I want my entire family, especially my grandchildren to be part of this document too. Praise our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
11.24.2009 | 5:41pm
Marion Fox says:
Thank You for your insight and service. I will pray for Gods grace for our journey,and that our journey is pleasing to Him.



Philippians 1:6
11.24.2009 | 5:48pm
Dwight says:
AMEN!!!
11.24.2009 | 5:52pm
Excellent! Christians have been silent too long.
11.24.2009 | 6:00pm
Have read the Declaration with great interest. This is one of the finest, solidly written religious tomes to come down the pike in a very long time. Now we will wait anxiously for concrete results of the Declaration with the one regret that a similar document had not been placed before us a long time ago.
11.24.2009 | 6:10pm
Sally Irons says:
Please e-mail where I can sighn this declaration. Praise God for good Christians willing to stand up for JESUS
11.24.2009 | 6:13pm
JOHN MOSELEY says:
LOOKING ALWAYS FOR THE WAY OUT SOMETIMES PLACES YOU IN THE WAY.
WHICH MEANS WHY JUDGE WHAT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE. BELIEVE WHAT YOU WISH AT YOUR OWN PERIL. THE WORDS WERE FROM THEIR HEARTS WITH LOVE AND DEVOTION TO BOTH GOD AND THEIR FELLOW MEN AND WOMEN AS THEY HAVE RECEIVED THEM FROM OUR GOD. IN THE END EVERYONE WILL CALL OUT HIS NAME BUT IT WILL BE TO LATE TO DEBATE WHAT HE HAS SAID BECAUSE HE WILL BE HERE TO JUDGE WHAT YOU DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH BASED ON HIS TEACHINGS. WE AS CHRISTIANS ARE EXPECTED TO GIVE IN ON ALL OTHERS BELIEFS AND ACTIONS BUT THAT PROMISE IS ONE SIDED AND WILL DESTROY THE VERY EXISTENCE OF OUR FAITH.
11.24.2009 | 6:17pm
IT IS NOTHING LESS THAN THE HAND OF GOD HIMSELF TO GET THIS DECLARATION FORMED AND TO HAVE HIS PEOPLE ADHEARING TO IT'S CONTENTS BY SIGNING IT!
PRAISES BE UNTO THE KING ETERNAL BOTH TODAY AND ALWAYS.
KATHLEEN MCIVER
11.24.2009 | 6:18pm
TERRY MCIVER says:
GLORY BE TO OUR GOD!
11.24.2009 | 6:22pm
Gwen D says:
It's about time!!!!!!!! And to all the naysayers and non-believers or whatever you claim to be, say what you will. God will forever stand the test of time and each of you will know the truth in the end...........
11.24.2009 | 6:25pm
As devoted Orthodox Christians we wholeheartedly support the Declaration and urge all Orthodox Faithful to follow Christ's teachings.
11.24.2009 | 6:27pm
As committed Christians we must stand for basic Christian principles.
11.24.2009 | 6:29pm
Luis Howard says:
JMJ

1. Thank you both, framers and signers, of the Manahattan Declaration for the courage and work it took to produce this fine, noble work.
2. We have been waiting for something like this so that we can work to support the reinforcement of the Principles expressed in it.
3. We will work to the death to support these Principles and will spread the word about the Manhattan Declaration to this family's friends, coworkers, neighbors, relatives and ask them to do the same.
4. We are absolutely committed, again, to the death, to not allow the perverts, bigots against the faiths that support these Principles, 'progressives,' libs/lefties, to get their way regarding abortion and homosexual 'marriage.'

[We cannot contain our curiosity as to why the unfortunate people who support killing babies and homosexual 'marriage' would read First Things. We can suppose that it is good, that someday the Truth will sink in to their confused heads.]
11.24.2009 | 6:30pm
As Christians we must adhere to the teachings of Christ.
11.24.2009 | 6:35pm
I wholeheartly agree with every word/ It's about time we stand up for GOD! And humanity.
11.24.2009 | 6:39pm
It matters not whether you or I can justify the wrongs we commit. There is a power greater than all of us, our God who first loved us with no strings attached, He sent His only beloved son to die for you and me. You nor I are perfect, and never will be so there is no point in trying to prove who is better than another. We all know, deep in our souls/heart, there is only one God, who sent His son to die for us. His word is simple and true and never changes, and He has given us the choice to be His or burn in hell. I choose my Lord and savior, JEsus Christ--now and forever.
11.24.2009 | 7:05pm
Thank you - Hallelujah.
11.24.2009 | 7:12pm
Cathy F. says:
I have printed this, I will read it everyday! So well put! I thank the writers of this great declaration for a job well done. God bless each and every one of you.
11.24.2009 | 7:26pm
I am in total agreement that we must stand with the Bible. If, it is written it is so. The Bible is the standard that this country was founded on.
11.24.2009 | 7:37pm
All I can say is "THANK YOU"!!
11.24.2009 | 7:41pm
I absolutely agree with this Christian declaration. The USA will not be defeated from outside its borders. On its current pathway, the USA will crumble from within because of ever rising immorality and personal greed.
11.24.2009 | 7:43pm
Let the trurth be known. Our God is soverien. All are subject to him!!! May God grant us courage in these trying time. Stand tall people and Glorify him. Be proud of your God and be proud of these men who God has sent.
11.24.2009 | 8:07pm
allen bunch says:
where do I sign?
11.24.2009 | 8:08pm
Luis Howard says:
The number of signers increased from around 99,000 to around 103,000 in a matter of less than an hour!!!!

The website for the Manhattan Declaration, manhattandeclaration.org, is the first thing I will check tomorrow morning.

There should be no doubt in anyone's head that when we unite against the libs/lefties, WE WILL WIN!

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
11.24.2009 | 8:22pm
Thank God! Finally some postive actions from Christians!
11.24.2009 | 8:24pm
Ron Berg says:
Ezekiel 33:8-9: “When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.” I am pleased to agree wholeheartedly with the Manhattan Declaration.
11.24.2009 | 8:25pm
Debbi says:
I agree
11.24.2009 | 8:26pm
I will stand with my brothers and sisters, I truly beleive that what they are doing is blessed by God, I will not however go to slaughter like sheep unaware of my own strenght and give up what God gave me.
God Bless You All I am proud to stand with you in the name of reason and truth. Gary Stevenson Houston Texas
11.24.2009 | 8:27pm
Gerald Knapp says:
We support this declaration fully and hope the rest of the world will do the same.
Diane and Gerald Knapp
11.24.2009 | 8:29pm
I wholeheartedly agree with entire writing. I am tired of GOD being put behind and no one standing up for him. I want to sign this and I WANT TO STAND UP FOR GOD AND ALL OF HIS TEACHINGS He is our SAVIOUR and will always be there to take care of us now it is our time to stand up for him............
11.24.2009 | 8:31pm
THANK GOD

Thank God you people at the top have stood up and said something with some spine in it.

God Bless you. GOD BLESS AMERICA
11.24.2009 | 8:35pm
This is beautiful God is king of the Universe, and as his children we should follow his teachings and be faithful to him and his word.
11.24.2009 | 8:37pm
Mort Stepp says:
It is time for all Christians to take a firm stand for the belief in the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman, standing firmly against abortion believing that God does not, nor will condone the taking of an innocent life for whatever reason, living together as husband and wife yet not married is wrong and against God's laws and that there is only one God in the universe. He is the One who created the world, the universe, life and everything that exists. I proclaim Him as my Lord and Savior.
11.24.2009 | 8:37pm
praise the lord,im a christian who loves the lord jesus,thank you,thank you.for standing up for the unborn .i wholeheartedly support your stand on this matter .again thank you for taking a stand,achristian first,baptist 2nd
11.24.2009 | 8:40pm
helenlechner says:
We are all one in Christ!! We have the power of the Almighty behind us and as David slew Goliath, we have out numbered the opposition and always will as Truth will empower, protect and guide the God-inspired, No power can resist divine power! Regardless of the religion, there is only one God, the Creator of us all, frankly I welcome the opportunity to come face-to-face with the enemy of freedom , showing itself as arrogance, blatant disregard for the dignity and freedom of citizens to govern their our destiny. I welcome the opportunity to battle them down and rise stronger for it. People everywhere must take up the mantle and go out to stand up for all to be free from intimidation, to have to submit to terrorism of ledgislation. In congress now is blatant dishonesty, oppressive legislation, disregard for the individual's right to choose his own treatment of his body, this legislation is not allowed by the constitution. Becauce of it's lack of legitimacy it will faill over and over again. God help us all!!! In Truth we have won the battle alrready through Christ!!
11.24.2009 | 8:47pm
All I can say is AMEN. Such declaration and unified rffort has long been needed.
I personallt will support it,
11.24.2009 | 8:49pm
MR. PAVLIC SAYS IT PERFECTLY. DITTO
11.24.2009 | 8:51pm
Bob Burch says:
We must stand for the absolute truth. This adminstration does not. We see in their politics and their votes on all legislation they have no moral values. From the top to the bottom, we have seen they will not stand on thier principles. They can be sold and bought(votes) like products in the store. May GOD watch over us and keep us safe and I do agree with this project.
11.24.2009 | 8:59pm
This is, I believe, a historic document which I support wholeheartedly. However, we (Orthodox Catholics and Protestants) have "talked the talk." We need to be prepared to "walk the walk." We need to pray that the Holy Spirit will give us the courage to act in accordance with the precepts of the declaration.
11.24.2009 | 9:06pm
Jesus said. "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." The one who has made Him both Savior and Lord will obey that Word because he has turned from death to life. Part of that Word also says, “Therefore "Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. ...” The world in its darkness does not understand and cannot understand. How thankful I am that some have now raised a voice and are standing up for godliness and Truth. As Jude directs, “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.” Our God is the same, yesterday, today and forever. The Faith once delivered is not to be amended in any age nor for any society. It is not a matter of serving where there is need. A committed follower of Jesus will do that. It is a matter of serving a Holy God.
11.24.2009 | 9:11pm
The Manhattan Declaration has the potential of being the rallying point for all Bible believing, Christ loving Christians. It gives the leverage needed for a united front in the fight in the cultural war. It can also be the call for a purging and purifying of the Church. It can be the means of separting the sheep from the goats, the authentic from the phony.

Roger Willmore
11.24.2009 | 9:13pm
I support this declaration. Jesus, please save this country that used to be the best country in the world. We are going through scary and sad times. God bless
11.24.2009 | 9:19pm
The Mahattan Declaration is the rallying cry to the Church of the 21st century. It is time for the people of God to stand up and speak up. The Church has been silent too long as an anti-God cultural has run rammpant. May all Bible believing, Christ loving Christians prayerfully consider having their voice heard and taking a stand for Jesus.

It is time to confront cultural Christianity!!

Roger Willmore
11.24.2009 | 9:20pm
betsyrunyan says:
Let it be known that no-one judges anyone personally! Homosexual behavior is of itself nothing more than an effort to experience a form of love not afforded otherwise, unless one is "in a committed relationship" with one of the opposite gender. Who of us would deny someone an expression of love? Not a real Christian. Christian fellowship, carries with it a deep level of respect, spirituality and faithfulness ,and is what sustains heterosexual and homosexual relationships. The real problem with both groups is the animal magnitism of lust has become mesmeric and has taken over both ,with what should be a higher and enduring relationship not based on physicality, Both have sunk down to experimental engagement in lust and the vain and futal attempts to satisfy the lust all of us can, and must destroy. Homosexual behavior, of itself is a pit from which anyone practicing it can be healed. Love is a natural thing to seek, and the Love, which is Omnipotent, Omniscient, has for us a satisfying love that exceeds any human love because it comes form a divine source. We will never condemn anyone seeking love! It's natural! Let us all come together and experience the true satisfying love already permeating our lives if we only acknowledge it now.
11.24.2009 | 9:30pm
being a christian is not only about feeding the hungry,clothing the naked,and providing for the down and out;but must take to task the issues of a society that is bent on destroying this country's moral values. and some of the people on this blog is angry not only at this declaration, but the bottom line is (they don't won't anyone or any creed (God's holy word) telling them how to live. these people are delighted to be in darkness and when we christians speak out against this wickedness that's engulfing our country,it really forces them to look at their sin,point blank. God is a loving God,but He will judge the wick for their sins also.. come to sinner man/woman while you still have breath in your lungs. because guess what;every one out of one will die and stand before him. wheather you believe it or not-you will stand in His present. selah.
11.24.2009 | 9:48pm
Jamie Page says:
Thanks for the clarion call!
11.24.2009 | 9:49pm
Luis Howard says:
Yes, this final paragraph means civil disobedience. Who is not prepared to engage in civil disobedience if we are driven to it? We have to let Obama and his friends know that they have gone entirely too far, we have to let them know now.

"Because we honor justice and the common good, we will not comply with edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family. We will fully and ungrudgingly render to Caesar what is Caesar’s. But under no circumstances will we render to Caesar what is God’s."

Read Bishop Harry Jackson's column on the Manahattan Declaration at http://townhall.com/columnists/HarryRJacksonJr/2009/11/23/the_manhattan_declaration.
11.24.2009 | 9:52pm
Luis Howard says:
There are close to 107,000 signers as of 1:00 am est! Please get your friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors to sign.
11.24.2009 | 10:11pm
I completely agree with the Declaration and want to sign it. Where do I sign?
11.24.2009 | 10:13pm
We must take a stand for our rights as born again Christians. The liberal politicians and the 'politicallly correct' have just about ruined this country. i am glad that there are some rising up and leting their voices be heard. When these groups try to indoctrinate others with their godless living and idealogy they are nit seeking acceptance as much as dominance. I am one pround to be an American and our only hope is a turn towards the Almighty God for repentance and mercy. Thanks to those who are fed up with liberilism and left wing theology and want our and their voices to be heard. God Bless America.
11.24.2009 | 10:20pm
I PREACHED A SERMON ONLY A FEW WEEKS BACK WHERE I TOLD MY CONGREGATION THAT RADICAL PRAYER CAN CHANGE THINGS RADICALLY. I BELIEVE THAT I'M SEEING THE FRUITS OF THOSE PRAYERS. I THANK GOD FOR YOUR LISTENING TO AND ACTING ON GOD'S WILL.
11.24.2009 | 10:47pm
Margot Fernandez: You're quite mistaken... Catholics with a conscience are exactly the ones faithfully remaining in the Catholic Church. Of course, the obstinately rebellious, dissenting, heterodox Catholics are more than welcome to join the Episcopal Church and would fit in quite well. Notice however, that while the Episcopal Church offers every kind of inclusive, tolerant, anything-goes theology, their membership is not exactly bursting at the seams.
11.24.2009 | 11:37pm
Luis Howard says:
Cheryl Gruenewald: go to www.manhattandeclaration.org
11.24.2009 | 11:43pm
Bob Page says:
I agree 100%. Thank you for giving other Christians a forum to express our beliefs and to take a moral stand.
11.24.2009 | 11:53pm
Donna Leach says:
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I praise God for the stand for righteousness!!
11.25.2009 | 1:06am
Pedro Erik says:
My strong support for this Declaration.

Truth always in Jesus Christ.
11.25.2009 | 1:32am
I stand with you on solid, uncompromising conservative Christian principles. God bless you.
11.25.2009 | 1:34am
Dan Convey says:
Pray that more people read and sign this declaration.
11.25.2009 | 3:03am
and.. GOD said:If MY PEOPLE who are called by MY NAME, will HUMBLE THEMSELVES, and PRAY, and SEEK MY FACE and TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS,THEN will I HEAR FROM HEAVEN , and will forgive their sin and WILL HEAL THEIR LAND...
GOD let us love the sinner and hate the sin!!!
11.25.2009 | 4:22am
Ted Winkel says:
Though there are several issues herein with which I'm not in accord, I nonetheless applaud your efforts to address significant societal issues. And for that this effort should be applauded.
11.25.2009 | 4:26am
Pat Coomer says:
I am in total agreement, the liberal forces trying to bring down this country need to wake up and get back to the beliefs and principles that made our country great.
GOD BLESS AMERICA !
11.25.2009 | 5:17am
Karen says:
I'm so thankful that we as a nation seem to be standing up to take back our rights as people of faith. We have sat and done nothing while being labeled as intolerant and closed minded. We have allowed our country and what made us great in light of Gods Holy, Divine Word to be dismissed as meaningless in our society. We must stand together.....
11.25.2009 | 6:16am
John Terry says:
This declaration is rank apostasy at its worse and a defining moment for those that compromise the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
11.25.2009 | 6:54am
Render unto Caesar Mk12:17 is not an appropriate ending to a well done statement of Christian standing. Our responsibility to secular government depends on many factors and a blanket statement that we "fully render unto Caesar" is naive and fails to take into account the very government abuses stated above. It is actually in part contradictory and a textual anomaly. Acting responsibly in our social lives is presumed by the very letter itself. Additionally, there is individual responsibilty with respect to material and financial wherewithall and to just imply that it is supposed to be handed over to Caesar/government is not an accurate statement. Lastly, this statement by Jesus was to expose the hypocracy of the Jews in that situation and to instead highlight to give to God what is his, not to suggest our tax paticulars.
11.25.2009 | 7:35am
Roy Montfort says:
United we stand in Jesus Christ, teacher of all Christians in truth.
11.25.2009 | 7:40am
Henry Elden says:
Being thrown to the lions aside, this nicely articulated declaration tells us that, in standing for principle, we don't necessarily have to sacrifice peaple to that principle either. I love it.
11.25.2009 | 7:43am
Joyce Magras says:
I am a Roman Catholic and stand with eveeryone who calls for the right to stand up for our Christian Conscience and what we are called to do and live by as good Catholics.
We must stop the government and all liberals and non-believers , from their attempt to take away our rights,power to speak, to practice our Faith . God is first in my life and that is what I live. I live for God, for Jesus christ and not for man. Let's stand tall and proud.
We are still weak and frail but the grace of God sustains us.

Joyce
11.25.2009 | 8:40am
jane boyce says:
I wish to sign your declaration please add my name to you manhattan declaration. Thanks
11.25.2009 | 9:10am
Terry Rea says:
I believe God's Word has all the answers. Paul said preach Christ and him Crucified.
When Jesus was crucified, the stage was set for us to have a Savior to put our faith.
This country needs to get back to Christain basics before it will be healed.

Terry
11.25.2009 | 9:23am
We must stand together in the body of Christ for this cause. We
must not be moved . God has called us to be of good courage . ( Joshua 1: 9) "Have I not commanded you ? Be stong and of good courage; be not afraid , neither be thou dismayed : for the Lord your God is with you whithersoever you go."
11.25.2009 | 10:07am
RIGHT ON!! COUNT US IN. GOD BLESS AND PROTECT AMERICA.
11.25.2009 | 10:58am
Luis Howard says:
Jane Boyce and others who want to sign, go to www.manhattandeclaration.org and find out the latest number of people who have signed without reservation.
11.25.2009 | 11:03am
Luis Howard says:
120,983 signers as of 2 pm est!!!!

Please pass this article on to friends, neighbors, coworkers, relatives so that we can let Washington know what we are prepared to do if they do not stop trying to force their perversions on us.
11.25.2009 | 12:19pm
R. Hampton,

It is not true that homosexuals are denied the right to marry. They (you) can marry any person of the opposite sex they choose who will have them. That they (you) choose not to marry a person of the opposite sex is a choice they make. Their problem, and now ours, is they refuse to accept the consequences of their decision. It goes without saying, their (your) plea for tolerance comes from the most intolerant people on the planet. A typical, and shameless, double standard.
11.25.2009 | 12:43pm
It is very difficult to find where to sign. I have gone thru many sites and pages. WHERE DO I SIGN. I would like to take my friends to the site after they have read the declaration.
I attend Pastor Al Hougtons seminars which he gives about Jesus the Judge. His ministry is to educate Christians to call persons to pray for Jesus to honor His covenant to judge our enemies. Margaret (Peggy) Lester
11.25.2009 | 1:06pm
Luis Howard says:
124,260 signers as of 4:00 pm EST!

DOES ANYONE DOUBT THAT THIS DECLARATION CLEARLY EXPRESSES WHAT MOST AMERICANS THINK ABOUT ABORTION AND HOMOSEXUAL 'MARRIAGE'?

It is only the occasional lib/lefty that stumbled on to this Declaration, as shown above, and they are incoherent and incapable of defending the standard lib/lefty line
11.25.2009 | 1:27pm
Luis Howard says:
Margaret Lester and other potential signers, go to

www.manhattandeclaration.org
11.25.2009 | 1:41pm
I am sincerely prepared to spill my blood for my faith . but after I forgive all those who have striped me from my ethical & Religious values/Rghts & techings and all other physical and or mental harm.
11.25.2009 | 1:53pm
Bob Maletta says:
My faith has been restored, my eves have seen the sunrise, Gods speed to all who carry the message onward, we are with you.
11.25.2009 | 4:57pm
Jason Engle says:
"We will fully and ungrudgingly render to Caesar what is Caesar’s. But under no circumstances will we render to Caesar what is God’s."

Amen!
11.25.2009 | 5:37pm
Finally, we're taking a stand. It's about time. GOD bless the people that started
this. We say Merry Christmas.
11.25.2009 | 6:52pm
edna parker says:
Our prayers are with all of you!!!!!!
11.25.2009 | 7:27pm
I am so happy and grateful that the Christian churches are uniting to fight against the culture of death.
11.25.2009 | 7:30pm
right on i hope this is going out to our elected officials
11.25.2009 | 9:18pm
God Bless You!!! Praise God!!! I am so excited that our religous leaders of all faiths are taking a stand for Life and Marriage. Count me in.
11.26.2009 | 6:55am
Kirk Bieck says:
Unity through the cross, grace because of the cross, together we stand at the cross!
11.26.2009 | 7:04am
May we all continue to accept the loving free gift of grace that God, our creator so lavishly offers us. The blood of Jesus redeems us all when we choose to except this as the only Way.
11.26.2009 | 7:08am
Ed Markin says:
WHOW!
11.26.2009 | 8:27am
May god help us, and pray the rosary.
11.26.2009 | 9:59am
About time we take a stand. How can I sign this?
11.26.2009 | 10:15am
Again I say unto you, That if two of you agree on earth as touching ANY THING that they shall ask,It shall be done for thim of my father which is in heaven.
Matthew18:19
May the Lord bless you and GOD BLESS AMERICA.
11.26.2009 | 10:17am
JohnRDC says:
This is very hopeful on at least two counts. First, the content of the message. Second, who the signatories are: the Archbishops of New York and DC, and the Cardinal Archbishop of Philadelphia. These are, from the Roman Catholic Church''s perspective, heavyweights. It's obvious that the overwhelming majority of the Catholic hierarchy are now determined to do something about the abysmal backsliding on Church doctrine that has characterized the last 40 years.

That the Catholic leaders I enumerated above (and the others not so enumerated) are willing to join Protestant bretheren to sign what amounts to a manifesto in favor of bedrock Christian teaching is a sign that "enough is enough." They also seem aware that something has to be done about Notre Dame and the colleges "in the Jesuit tradition" entertaining pro-abortion politicos. Green shoots, one might say.
11.26.2009 | 11:02am
Luis Howard says:
As of 2 pm EST, 149,856 signers. Let's not stop promoting this, because as stubborn as the present administration's machine is in promoting abortion and homosexual 'marriage, we absolutely need to let them know that the last paragraph saying that we will simply not respect, MUCH LESS OBEY, any edict or ruling that promotes abortion, homosexual 'marriage,' or does not allow for the exercise of conscience.

That amount of signers, some 50,000 to 60,000 in about 24 hours, if the rate holds, means that we could have an overwhelming number in the next few days. I have sent the Declaration to all of the people I know and hope that all of you can find the time and Inspiration to do the same.
11.26.2009 | 11:37am
Praise God we can unite on these issues. I and my husband Jerald Paulus stand with you. Rose Mary Paulus
11.26.2009 | 11:38am
Pablo says:
Thanks be to God!!!
11.26.2009 | 11:38am
We. my husband Jerald stand with you.
11.26.2009 | 1:24pm
The need for such a declaration in our present circumstances is both most vital and timely. We commend the authors. Good Bless them.
11.26.2009 | 4:34pm
Rich Woz says:
I have sent 3 perspectives on the "Manhattan Declaration."

They are the writings of James White & John Macarthur as to why they "would not" sign and 1 from Albert Mohler as to why "I did sign" (links below)

In my opinion...

I think they all have important & valid points and I could certainly hear the sincerity and conviction in Mohler's writing as he makes his argument as to why he chose to sign on. I appreciate his clear distinction between the Gospel and Romanism and I commend him for his courage in proclaiming the truth. Most evangelical leaders lack the knowledge and or guts to even go there.

.......but like MaCarthur points out...

"Instead of acknowledging the true depth of our differences, the implicit assumption (from the start of the document until its final paragraph) is that Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant Evangelicals and others all share a common faith in and a common commitment to the gospel’s essential claims. The document repeatedly employs expressions like “we [and] our fellow believers”; “As Christians, we . . .”; and “we claim the heritage of . . . Christians.” That seriously muddles the lines of demarcation between authentic biblical Christianity and various apostate traditions."

Many evangelical leaders know this not to be the case as I assume most that signed the document do. But they are representative of not only themselves but more important they have God's children to protect and when signing on to a document that muddles the gospel with "another gospel," it is confusing and dangerous to those who are new believers or have no understanding of what popery is AND IT DOES NOT HONOR GOD.

If the declaration made clear the that these were persons of "different" belief systems uniting to stop a clear danger, I would feel more comfortable applauding its efforts and those who signed on. But as in many of these type of documents, the Gospel must be veiled for what some would deem a greater, more urgent cause.

Each time I see Rome make a stand against abortion, I can't help but think it is nothing more than a smokescreeen covering those very lives they vow to protect in the womb while standing idly by while 100'000's of those children that made it out of the womb, wound up in the grasp of her "alter Christus" that took the liberty of beating, raping and abusing them. Did these evangelical "leaders" take into acct. that the papist leaders did absolutely nothing to stop it and absolutely EVERYTHING to hide it?!

There are enough evangelicals that stand for the gospel truth that should be signing declarations such as these together under the banner of truth, the gospel. Not with an apostate church that spent years trying to destroy the gospel and those who stood for its truth, through her murderous inquisitions....

My prayer is that this declaration and the further actions of those who did sign it, does make a difference and that the Lord regenerates the hearts & minds of those leaders lost in another gospel...


Peace in Christ Alone
Woz

Link to Mohler article:
http://www.albertmohler.com/2009/11/23/why-i-signed-the-manhattan-declaration/

Link to MaCarthur article:
http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=3641

Link to James White article:
http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php?itemid=3638

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May WE grow closer to HIM, as the nation grows further away...
11.26.2009 | 5:04pm
Kathy Marron says:
My husband Tom and I thank God for this declaration and commend the authors. May God bless each of you for leading the fight to honor Him. May God dwell with us and help us to take this country back for His name's sake.
11.26.2009 | 8:57pm
Terry W. says:
A gentleman stated this declaration was disheartening because it left out the gray areas. It is because of the "gray" areas the church has come to support that this declaration has been drafted. He also stated it will further divide the political party system...this draft is not meant to bring political parties together just as the Declaration of Independence was not drafted to bring England and the Colonies together. It is meant to divide. Absolutes are meant to divide. Jesus Christ is an absolute which is why He stated: "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." (Matt 10:34)
11.27.2009 | 7:09am
we are Christians and we must take a stand and our stand is with Christ and this declaration
11.27.2009 | 8:53am
2Chron. 7:14
11.27.2009 | 9:02am
NoAplogies says:
To ignore the validity of the message and resist signing the document because of the differences between the different denominations is small-minded and short-sighted. I would go so far as to suggest that it's even un-Christian.
11.27.2009 | 9:49am
Ralph Keller says:
I have always found it interesting the depth of knowledge that non-Christians have about the Word of God and Christianity...

It's like they have read the Bible in its entirety several times over... they have attended church services in Christian Churches of every denomination endlessly... they have read every Christian theologian's text from the Old and New Testaments... and the way that they can quote the scriptures puts practicing Christians to shame!!!

It's just too bad that they haven't experienced a true relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and put all of that knowledge to GOOD use.

Oh, about that apology thing... Maybe before Christians are required to apologize about the mistreatment of non-Christians in the past, it would be a good idea for all non-Christians to be required to apologize to Christians for the way that their ancestors tortured, maimed and killed Christians in the past.

There's some interesting reading available in the Bible about the mistreatment of Believers by non-believers... a "Crown of Thorns", hanging on the Cross, killing the first born, etc. And if you look really hard (well maybe not that hard) you can find and few stories about the persecution of Jews and Christians in the past, and not-so-distant past by non-Christians.

Yes, it's about time that Christians start standing up for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ... I give my total support to the Manhattan Declaration.
11.27.2009 | 9:59am
It has been said "Give me some men who are stout hearted men & I'll soon give you ten thousand more"! Not only men but women of firm & dedicated Christian faith have struck the Bell of Truth with this Declaration & prayerfully its words will resonate with fervor & inspiration that this Nation has not heard since its inception. It only takes one prophetic person or group inspired by the Holy Spirit to set the world ablaze so as to stop & curtail the multiple injustices that plague our world today. Men & Women of God we have our new constitution with this Declaration & with it let us venture forth with in prayerful & non-violent behavior to stem & turn the tide toward respecting all human life from conception to natural death.
member Catholic Medical Association.
11.27.2009 | 12:36pm
Lori Bull says:
I think its about time us christians start taking a stand for God. Its a call to step up for what we believe and act upon it, before its too late!!!
11.27.2009 | 12:39pm
John Bull says:
Christians are the only group of people being persecuted in this country and we are a strong group if we only start to not take advantage of the fact we are allowed to worship as we deem. All christians need to start to speak up, and share Gods word with others.
11.27.2009 | 12:58pm
Joey says:
This declaration seems to be committed to the ol' American Constantinian project. Getting to these issues requires first getting away from the language of "rights" (something totally foreign to Christianity but completely compatible with enlightenment liberal polity). What's more, why have not people like Stanley Hauerwas, Richard Hays, Miroslav Volf, etc. signed on? If this is going to be purely a project of the religious Right, I have a hard time getting past the mere political motives. Last, for Colson and others to say that the three issues of religious liberty, sanctity of life, and traditional marriage are the "most important issues" Christians face is crazy. How about we start with the issues of America's impulse to wage war and exploit the downtrodden via capitalistic plutocrazy? I, an evangelical Christian, will not sign on to this declaration. It must first prove to be a broader, more inclusive document that expands beyond the Christian Right, get away from the language of the Constantinian project, and become less ambiguous about what it intends to to after it receives its many signatures.
11.27.2009 | 4:00pm
Not everything in this Declaration agrees with my convictions. So what? Nothing important in society would happen if the action waited until everyone agreed with every point. Consider the debates and compromises necessary for our Founding Fathers to arrive at our Constitution.
This declaration is long, long overdue. Every person who favors life, and who sees the worth to society of Christian values ought to waive their objections and join in endorsing this beautifully written, considerately expressed document. The Manhatten Declaration is a sort of Declaration of Independence: we love and respect all you folks; and we value our government; but we will not allow any persons or government to coerce us into giving up our deepest Christian convictions. And our behavior under this Declaration will do harm to none.
11.27.2009 | 8:54pm
1 says:
How about we start with the issues of America's impulse to wage war and exploit "the downtrodden via capitalistic plutocrazy? "

Joey: That's the language of someone who has been infected with Leftism. Christians like you are part of the problem.
11.28.2009 | 2:01am
Pam says:
It is my understanding that anyone may sign the Manhatten Declaration, assuming they agree. (Else why would one sign it?) We who agree with this "Declaration" that supports human life, "from the womb to the tomb," and upholds the "right of conscience" in matters of faith and morals do not take our signing lightly. Once again, we "are being tested;" how can a nation survive that sanctions the killing of its own people, at whatever age or stage of life? If we do not change the course we are on as a nation, if the proposed healthcare law that promotes murder and denies the right of conscience and freedom of religion passes, and if the Judges in our courts don't stop endeavoring to "make policy" and return to their job of administering justice according to our Constitution, as framed by our Founding Fathers who upheld the natural/moral law), utter chaos will ensue and we will not endure much longer as a nation. Pray for the return of our country to its founding principles!
11.28.2009 | 5:26am
Paul Piepho says:
I glad to see where someone finally addressed my concerns, opinions and thoughts. We, as Christians, need to speak up and be heard as all others who have ridiculed our faith for years. This country was built on Christian principles that are now the butt of jokes by the MSM. Where can I sign up? I am so tired of my faith be the only faith that people attack w/out regard for the people that are being attacked in the process. We as Christians need to bring our faith to others and defend when it is attacked w/out rhyme or reason.
11.28.2009 | 6:43am
Tom Perry says:
I don't attend curch but I support the declaration in total.
11.28.2009 | 6:43am
May this declararion be accompanied by the work of the Holy Spirit in many hearts.
11.28.2009 | 7:24am
Observations
11.28.2009 | 7:33am
This is the best news I have heard in ages. It is time that we as Christians stand up and fight for our rights.
11.28.2009 | 8:12am
Mike C says:
I'm not as strongly committed to some of the statements within the declaratation as are its authors, but I applaud them just the same. It's refreshing to see people publicly declare their beliefs, knowing they'll be subject to ridicule or condemnation by some (not all, some) who don't share their beliefs.
Our society's gotten to a point where it's considered right-wing, racist, homophobic, sexist, facist or any other number of "ics" or "ists" to state principles that, while not always adhered to, have been guiding principles for more than 2,000 years.
My main disappointment is that only 14 bishops from the church in which I was raised had the courage to be signatories.
11.28.2009 | 8:46am
I am a Lutheran pastor and agree with what I read, but am appalled that Lutheran leaders were not sought out to be a part of crafting and signing a document such as this. There are more Lutherans in the world than any other branch of Protestantism.
11.28.2009 | 10:39am
The above makes for very interesting reading. As a Christian, I give up 'my rights' [what my flesh would perceive as such] every day, because I simply do not have any. I gave everything to Jesus when I accepted Him as my Lord. But there are so many comments above that suggest that we must 'stand up for our rights!' Also I sadly read that many are so happy that we as Christians have at long last been given something that we can uphold as truth and rally around and unite on etc!!! How about God's word? Hasn't that been available for centuries? In it we are commanded to live holy, Godly, pure, upright, blameless, Christlike, righteous lives, being above reproach and without guilt or shame or sin. I have yet to find any church or denomination that teaches this, or any pastor, priest or bishop etc who actually accepts it, believes it, applies it to their own lives, and actually experiences it. If all who sign this declaration still tolerate sin in their lives, then it means absolutely nothing. It is nothing more than adding more verbal garbage to their 'talking the talk' while they refuse to walk the walk. If you truly love God then you will 'naturally' choose for His highest good at every opportunity without the need for Manhattan Declarations or any other man made thing, and you will show by your life that you have something greater than what this world [and our present politicians] have to offer. That would speak FAR LOUDER than a signature on some paper with the owner of that signature continuing to grieve God on a daily basis. Not until the Body of Christ wakes up to the truth clearly taught in God's word and begins to accept and apply that truth to their lives will we see any change from the disaster being played out before our eyes at this time. There is a saying....'As goes the Church, so goes the nation'. We are seeing that coming to fruition these days. May God wake up those who profess to know Him but refuse to obey Him.
11.28.2009 | 11:07am
Cheryl Fitz says:
It is about time we take our rights back as Christians and this should have started way back when they took prayer out of our schools. Some of my best memories were learning the 100th Psalm, the Christmas story and the Lord's Prayer. They were good to teach children memorization. It didn't hurt me and made me a better person. Why are the athiest right and we are wrong? As far as our government, if they go along with the athiest or anyone who thinks we shouldn't mix church and state, then I think they should start working on all holiday's.
11.28.2009 | 11:28am
Joey says:
1, why does it have to be a matter of "left" and "right"? My concern is what I believe Jesus desires for humanity. To hang an American flag in a pulpit and support this "war on terror" (a pathetic excuse for "just war" as it violates the majority of its mandates) is far from meeting the ethics we see in the NT, particularly the sermon on the mount. As for the exploitation of people who endure being OWNED by the capitalists, either you're going to have to argue that that's not really the case, or show me how it can be justified via Christian tradition. These are my main concerns, and that is why I find it ironic that Colson (who, by the way, I deeply respect) cites John Paul II in saying we live in a "culture of death" but only speaks of abortion in this context. What about war? What about our unjust economic system? This is an injustice to JP II, but even more it's an injustice to the solution to this culture of death we do indeed live in. Don't get me wrong, I sympathize with much of what the Manhattan Declaration says, but I cannot bring myself to sign it when I believe it misses the prerequisite of urging the church to stop confusing itself with America and begin to see itself solely as an ecclesial structure.

This is not a matter of being left leaning or right leaning. It's a matter of divorcing Christianity from the substituted liturgical structure of America, whose central liturgical act is war (a la Hauerwas) - the liturgical structure that spurs the individualistic mindset that justifies abortion. So no, my friend, you are wrong. Being "leftist" is not the problem. Being "right leaning" is also not the problem. I claim neither. Rather, it is the reductionistic tendencies of people like YOU who reduce the Triune God down to the systemically fallen political structures of humans that are the problem.
11.28.2009 | 2:10pm
I am so Proud of Christians for finally saying something and standing up for our rights and our Faith. We are citizens of America as well as those who disagree with us because of Faith or Non Faith. I am a faithful Christian, I love this beautiful country we have been blessed to be born in, I obey the rules we are given and I respect the opinions of others and believe they should respect my opinions. I respectfully believe that alot of Goverment does not respect certain rights of those who they disagree with.
11.28.2009 | 2:24pm
It is vital for the welfare of future generations of Americans that we respect and live by what is written in the Manhattan Declaration. Support of these issues is morally comparable to opposing slavery 175 years ago.
11.28.2009 | 4:04pm
May God's perfect will be done "on earth as it is in heaven." We as Christians need to let our voices be heard and this declaration is a marvelous way to demonstrate our unity as a body of believers in all that is decent and true.
11.28.2009 | 4:32pm
Unknown says:
i cannot accept this declaration because it is deceitful plan not that i disagree with the sanctity of human life, the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife, and the rights of conscience and religious liberty, but it is a plan for everyone to worship on one day (Sunday) but the war will begin when a small group of sabbath (Saturday) keepers will keep God's law. if they speak not according to the law and to the testimony there is no light in them. (Isaiah 8:20) and this what is taking place was prophesied Great Controversy by Ellen G. White (1888) pages 513, 531, 505.
11.28.2009 | 5:20pm
I want to endorse this document.
11.28.2009 | 6:25pm
I find myself in agreement with the Manhattan Declaration.
11.28.2009 | 7:37pm
Colin Stitt says:
Hey Unknown!!! Ashamed of your name? And where do you find the week days named as Sun, Mon, Tues, etc at the time God created this whole thing? I too work six days and rest on the seventh, but my seventh happens to be a Sunday. Where have I gone wrong according to your doctrine? Wake up please and get focused on what really matters. And that is a meaningful, intimate, life changing relationship with Jesus Christ.
11.28.2009 | 11:58pm
We are(I fear or were) a nation blessed by God because our founding fathers understood that all good things come from God. Over tha past 70 years the liberal indoctrination has taken hold of this country and created or recreated a religion of humanism, secularism and progressivism all in one. This is an abomination the the Creator who has blessed this country. It is time that we speak up and against this progresive socialist agenda-not for political reasons-but for Biblically grounded Moral reasons. We must stand up for what is right regardless of the outcome-We know how the "storie" ends.
11.29.2009 | 12:27am
Lavaux says:
The Manhattan Declaration provides Christians a way of declaring to this fallen world that God is true. The declaration is not made to demonstrate the declarants' truthfulness, but God's.

Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge." (Romans 3 vs. 4)

The Manhattan Declaration's moral authority is God's and not those who drafted or signed it; they were merely acting as faithful servants of the Word. Therefore, the sins of the drafters, signatories, or Christians past provide no moral grounds to attack the Declaration, for the Word is holy, blameless and true. It follows that those who oppose the Declaration on grounds of moral equivalence also oppose the Lord who commissioned it. In so doing, they reveal the thoughts of their hearts.

Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother: "This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against, so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed." (Luke 2 vs. 34-35)

If moral equivalence is the standard whereby we Christians are to discern moral truths, then there are no moral truths. Marriage is what we say it is (a union of love between any number of creatures who can love), the unborn are what we say they are (disposable lumps of flesh), and nothing we say on these topics has any authority beyond our own authority to say it, which others may take from us at any time. I reject this authority, both for myself and others, because the standard is a lie denying all truths save one: There is no truth.

"You are a king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus answered, "You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."

"What is truth?" Pilate asked. (John 18 vs. 37-38)

Some Christians deem the prospect of persecution and suffering for Christ's sake pointless; capitulation to evil and accord with falsehoods are always preferable to persecution and suffering. They call for peace between the Church and the fallen world in the name of the Lord even while denying His authority to judge the world according to God's righteous commands and decrees.

Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? (Luke 6 v. 46)

These Christians reject all discipline and flee all hardship, treating the Gospel as if it were a self-help manual and the Word as if He were psychobabble. By so doing, they have stripped the Gospel of its power and rendered their own faith meaningless, thereby surrendering their spiritual inheritance.

In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons:

"My son, do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son."

Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons. (Hebrews 12 vs. 4-8)

Brothers and sisters, do not surrender your faith to fear or error. Stand with the Church and declare that God is true. Sign the Manhattan Declaration.
11.29.2009 | 5:54am
Agree...100 percent.
11.29.2009 | 7:24am
Joyce says:
If we were all the true Christians that we claim to be we should not have let ourselves get into the mess that we are in now. Why haven't more Christians taken a stand before now. Why have we let the government get this far out of control and let them take away our rights. If WE truly believe and start fighting back we can get this nation back to God where it belongs. I support this and am ready to fight for God.
11.29.2009 | 9:08am
D.G. Goodin says:
It's true that Christians have preserved knowledge, battled slavery, and resisted evil. It's also true that Christians have also restricted knowledge (see Galileo), supported slavery (Jefferson Davis, Robt E. Lee), and aided Evil (Spanish conquest of the new world, Catholic support for Hitler). Instead of arrogantly assuming your own superiority, and feeling the need to codify it in this rather disingenuous declaration, why not try speaking to the rest of world (including us terrible secularists and atheists) as equals? You might find that we are pretty nice people, who just want to live our lives with the same rights and privileges that everyone else enjoys. Further, we want to see to it that ALL people have these rights and priveleges, including our sisters, our gay and lesbian friends, and those who believe in something other than Christianity. I think you will find that civilization will do just fine under these circumstances -- look at Norway and Sweden. They seem to be doing alright with this whole 'tolerance' thing. Just some food for thought, thank you for reading it.
11.29.2009 | 9:31am
unknown says:
Hi Colin. I am happy that you know about a meaningful relationship with God, for this we have to obey him. Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of god Matt 4:4, Deut 8:13. With this in God said that the seventh day (which is Saturday ) is the sabbath (see Gen 2:1-3). man only put names to the days that God had already created. Just as a mother who has children gives a name to the first born and a name to the second.the children's names do not change their order of birth. Just so the position of the days is not changed only a name given to each. See Ps 89:34. and by the way the 7th day is not yours to determine it is GODS HOLY DAY!! You cannot make a holy day God can
11.29.2009 | 10:25am
I agree with this declaration. Lorraine T. Barnes
11.29.2009 | 11:13am
Thank God! It's about time that christains finally wake up with a voice. The non-believers make use of the laws provided in the constitution to defend their attack on the christains for years with abortion laws, now gay marriage is giving a wrong interpretation to the law of marriage between man and woman. They are aware of the Truth and are battle ready to fight the truth with lies and falsewood in attempt to further confuse the population. Bible says "Whatever we allow will be allowed and whatever we disallow will be disallowed. Let us use the God given authority we have as children of Lights over every form of darkness and extinguish darkness and Lights be in Jesus Name Amen!
11.29.2009 | 11:43am
I agree with the comments made in the Manhattan Declaration. I would like
to endorse this document.
11.29.2009 | 12:45pm
Joe Kelley says:
PRAISE GOD!!
11.29.2009 | 2:02pm
bob feix says:
Geees....wonder why the mainstream media, American leftist, pro abortionist, gay marriage advocates, and liberal universities types, have not spoken out against
The Manhattan Declaration, with more force! Think they hope it may go away, I believe they are "Whistling past a cemetery", of their own making. Both it and we are here to stay! Let the debate begin! Do not let them debate their "Feelings"
We all have feelings, but only our family and friends care about ones feelings, the other six billion people on earth care only about our actions! Make them defend their actions
11.29.2009 | 2:09pm
R.M. Lender says:
D.C. Goodin:

"You might find that we are pretty nice people, who just want to live our lives with the same rights and privileges that everyone else enjoys."

Except, alas, for the unborn, who seem to have no rights or privileges whatsoever in this schema. And that's what this statement is about. That's what we're fighting to uphold.

There may be much about Scandinavia (or similar societies you might point to) to admire, but their willingness to permit the slaughter of the unborn remains a dark exception to the tolerance they claim to uphold.

And we as Christians cannot remain silent about this evil, any more than Las Casas could remain silent about native American rights, Wilberforce or Garrison could remain silent about slavery, or Martin Luther King Jr. and Fr. Neuhaus could remain silent about civil rights.
11.29.2009 | 2:49pm
PraisThe Lord for this "goal line stand" against the perverse pressures of the Devil.
11.29.2009 | 3:35pm
I am proud to sign such a wonderful document! It is certainly needed. May God get the glory!
11.29.2009 | 4:57pm
jim hughes says:
i thought there was a place for us to sign
11.29.2009 | 5:04pm
T.H.E. says:
D.G. Goodin says: "...we want to see to it that ALL people have these rights and priveleges, including our sisters, our gay and lesbian friends..."

Your homosexual friends have the same rights and priveleges as everyone else--it is nonsense to say otherwise. BUT we are not allowing them to redefine the word 'marriage,' and our efforts in California and Maine show that, with more to come, get ready.

It is the homosexuals who have made difficult the lives of California supporters of marriage as it has been these many year, and they attempted to do the same thing in Washington, but amazingly a sane, nonactivist judge saw their visciousness and stopped it.

In a word, homosexuals and homosexualism are sterile.
11.29.2009 | 5:20pm
anna says:
REMEMBER WHAT THE APOSTLES ASKED OF JESUS, "LORD TEACH US HOW TO PRAY", IF WE WOULD TAKE TIME OUT AND PRAY IT DAILY , THEN NO DOUBT "HIS WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN".
11.29.2009 | 5:40pm
Luis Howard says:
Rev Beeler and Jim Hughes and any others who want to sign: Go to www.manhattandeclaration.org.

Close to 200,000 signers now, and that represents an increase of about 100,000 since Wednesday!!

Praise the Lord for bringing us all together!! Please keep sending this around to your friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors. This is the only thing that Obama understands, in the last paragraph of the Declaration: "we will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family." Get ready for some civil disobedience. [come and get me, Janet Napolitano and Rahm Emmanuel]
11.29.2009 | 5:40pm
I fully support this declaration !!!
11.29.2009 | 6:00pm
I am proud to sign this Manhattan Declaration !!!
11.29.2009 | 6:05pm
I agree and I am proud to sign this Declaration.
11.29.2009 | 6:58pm
Sid says:
Hello from New Zealand. I just found out about this declaration, and just signed it.

It's that time again for Christians to stand up, and to make our faith be heard and seen, loud and clear. We've done it few times in the last 2000 years, time to do it again :)
11.29.2009 | 7:28pm
I fully support and sign this declaration.
11.29.2009 | 8:15pm
A true stand for Godliness in our nation. Amen
11.29.2009 | 8:35pm
Sarah says:
What a wonderful Document. I challenge ALL our Catholic Bishops to sign it.
God bless those who drafted it. I pray for all those who malign it. Eventually
Our Lord's mercy will touch them and will see their lack of understanding.
I will sign it.
God bless America
11.29.2009 | 8:41pm
Colin Stitt says:
Hi Unknown, Sorry, but I could not find any mention of Saturday in my Bible not even in the verses you referred to. And you are exactly right in that man cannot make a certain day holy. Only God can do that, and He chose the day after he finished all His work of creation, but as I said before, we have absolutely no clue as to whether that was a Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. It was man who named these days after the fact, so please be reasonable and accept that it is you and not me who is demanding that a certain day is holy. I simply work six days and then rest as I am supposed to. You put something else onto this that only causes divisions and ill feeling between those who profess to be Christ followers. I will not comment further on this. I just ask that you use the brain that God so graciously gave you, and see reason in this.
11.29.2009 | 10:04pm
Leo Gonzales says:
It's about time that Christians expressed themselves forcefully regarding these matters.
11.30.2009 | 5:34am
Heather Hein says:
I agree with and support this declaration.
11.30.2009 | 5:43am
I am glad that this statement is out. People have long abused the laws that GOD has given us. I wish many people would thoughtfully read this statement and realize that GOD's way is always best.
11.30.2009 | 7:42am
Mary Yencho says:
Thank you, Jesus.
11.30.2009 | 7:59am
George Smith says:
I agree and am glad to sign.
11.30.2009 | 8:03am
Barbara Ward says:
Thank God Christianity is standing up to be counted!!!
11.30.2009 | 9:08am
Before Pope John Paul II died, he said to his cardinals (they wear red) that they may have to die for their faith. They may have to shed their blood. As christians, we may have to do the same. However, there is many ways to be a martyr for Christ. Speaking out about the Truth can cause us pain, but we must not straddle the fence. Sharon Bourassa
11.30.2009 | 9:36am
Rits Tadema says:
STAND UP AND STAND OUT
EX PLURIBUS UNUM
SOLI DEO GLORIA
TITUS 3:4-8
11.30.2009 | 10:24am
Marie Mader says:
Praise and sincerest thanks to those who have drafted and now firmly stand for the only true values in this world. Our culture is slipping into a horrible abyss that has made decency something to be laughed at and immorality something to applaud. We must stand with our whole hearts and defend the Bible and God's perfect word. Therein lies the only power for changing this very troubled world. I submit my signature with deepest conviction that this must be done.
11.30.2009 | 11:33am
Thank you so much for your declaration and allowing me to see that other people actually on the same page. May God richly bless you and yours. God is totally awesome and deserves to be worshipped.
For those of you who are having trouble with the message and still seek your own way. I will be praying that God will remove the stone from your hearts so that you can see His will in all of our lives. Amen.
11.30.2009 | 12:29pm
As a Messianic believer in Yeshua (aka Jesus) I am commending those willing to see the moral carnage that has occurred in our culture by the church at large (not in all respects) being silent in the face of moral decline. Claiming the laws of God obsolete has supported this decline. Our Master Jesus summed them up with love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. A summary statement does not do away with that which it is summarizing - it is shorthand for the whole. The prophets held Israel accountable for not crying out for justice for the widow, the orphan and the stranger (alien) in her midst (in violation of Torah - God;s teaching about life) and we are guilty of the same. We (as followers of Messiah Jesus) are first guilty by our silence and secondly by our unbelief. It is time to break our silence with both words and actions. If we truly believed what we claim, we should have ended abortion long ago, marriage would not be in the trouble it is in and we would not be facing the radically brazened morally void and determined administration that we face. For those who denounced this declaration, your continued silence is appreciated. For those who support, grace to you and peace through God our Father and our Lord Yeshua (aka Jesus) the Messiah. It is time for us all to not only speak but to put our faith to work and do something as culture changing as Wilberforce and Wesley. And that should include all my brothers and sisters within Messianic Judaism. Shalom and chazak (peace and be strong!)
11.30.2009 | 12:48pm
Mary Guzman says:
It is time that we take a deep look into our hearts and realize that this country must
survive only when we leave our selfish self-centered ways and return to God, who is
our all. Let us simply look at the laws He has left for us to govern ourselves and have life. We will then see with His own eyes what must be done. Let us protect the innocent and helpless with out having our own agenda. Let us be vulnerable and trust in the Spirit of God who is our strength and rightousness.
11.30.2009 | 1:39pm
Joanne Cesar says:
Amen
11.30.2009 | 4:11pm
Kristian says:
This declaration will give people the impression that all christians care about nowadays is the abortion issue and the marriage issue.

Yeah, that was all Jesus was talking about, wasn't it? He just talked about abortion and marriage, all the time.

All that talk about helping the poor, loving your neighbor and all that, that's just something that the bloody liberals made up. Jesus didn't really care about that, did he? Of course not. As long as we are against homosexuals and abortion, we can be as rich as we want and ignore the poor. They are just lazy and will all go to hell for it. Hallelujah.
11.30.2009 | 5:19pm
Having recently been imprisoned in a mental hospital for over a month for "religious preoccupation" (I am a vowed, Roman Catholic who embraces the life of a contemplative)... without recourse to phone, mail, or computer through "witness" of lies, presumptions, and non-professional testimony. I know the great wall separating modern psychology/psychiatry from the truly spiritual. I am adding my name to the roster because our religious freedoms ARE being taken from us--the Saints who stood up for this in the same way and were persecuted, imprisoned, tortured (this, too, was "part of the package" dressed up as psychological and physical forced "care") are my model. My civil disobedience has started... dear Lord, give me the strength to be worthy of Your LOVE. People of God, pray for me as I pray for you. Jesus Christ is LORD! (and, no, Muslims are NOT Christian because they do not believe Jesus Christ is co-equal with the Creator! BUT, they DO honor Him, and know He is the final judge!)
11.30.2009 | 5:21pm
Ray Toney says:
Thank God for the declaration and all of you who signed your name to it
Please let's ask God to let his will be done in all of these items and joint me in
Prayer daily "Ask God what can I do in all this" and then do what he puts on out heart do to. I believe if we ask God for his help and then do his will there will be a difference
11.30.2009 | 10:29pm
T.H.E. says:
Kristian, please think a little, put away your fuzzy lib/lefty sentiments: The lib/lefty/feminist/humanist/secularist sacrament of abortion is intended to reduce the quantity of poor, as stated by Margaret Sanger herself, the foundress of Planned Parenthood--the most active abortion mill in the world. The homosexual/homosexualist promotion of the homosexual 'marriage' nonsense is in a similar way intended to reduce the 'overpopulated' earth, or at least has that effect--you should ask yourself why the Russians give days off for staying home and procreating, after many years of pushing abortion hard.

There is no Christian charity known that worries exclusively about the evils of abortion and the homosexual 'marriage' nonsense--they all worry about the poor and work arduously to help them, BUT YOU KNEW THAT. You and the other libs/lefties are just a little bit too concerned about the poor to allow us to think anything but that you are really, THAT IS, REALLY, in favor of abortion and the homosexual 'marriage' nonsense.

GET INFORMED ABOUT THE WORK THAT CHRISTIANS DO TO HELP THE POOR, THAT IS, IF YOU ARE NOT.
12.1.2009 | 7:18am
May Our Lady, Immaculate Conception, protect our Country and all of the world.
12.1.2009 | 9:49am
Praise God for the Men and Women who are getting on board. All thumbs up, let's go for More than a MILLION. . . I'm sure God can do it.
12.1.2009 | 11:09am
Luis Howard says:
There are now 222,356 signers as of 2 pm EST, 12/1/9.

Please continue to insist that your friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors go to www.manhattandeclaration.org and sign.

This is the only thing that Obama understands, the civil disobedience suggested by the last paragraph of the Declaration, and even if he understands it, he may insist on his blood drenched abortion, so let's get ready for whatever happens, but certainly the more signers the less he can say he had no idea where Americans' sentiments were on this subject and he other perversion.
12.1.2009 | 12:28pm
May God Father have mercy on our country. Our forefathers built this country on Christian principals. No one has a right to change them to non-Christian ways of thinking.
12.1.2009 | 1:46pm
I am a dedicated Christian. However, I found this document greatly lacking. It was very selective in the issues it chose (stem cell research, gay marriage, etc), while not even mentioning more progressive causes such as healthcare reform, climate change, and justice for the poor and oppressed. What they are offering is nothing new. Some of the things they have written I do applaud, but overall it is just a new repackaged version of taking on some issues, while ignoring a lot that are also vitally important. This could be relevant if it wasn't clearly lined up with the ideas of conservatives and the Republican Party. However, because it is clearly partisan in the issues it says to be "important", it is in my opinion, wrongheaded.
12.1.2009 | 1:50pm
Bob Welch says:
Katie used a work I don't see very often, "ilk." Not a big work, but acceptable. So many, many words and responses. Perhaps some levity to break up all the hot air:

A bus on a busy street struck a Catholic man. He was lying near death on the sidewalk as a crowd gathered. "A priest. Somebody get me a priest!" the man gasped. Long seconds dragged on but no one stepped out of the crowd. A policeman checked the crowd and finally yelled, "A PRIEST, PLEASE! Isn't there a priest in this crowd to give this man his last rites?"Finally, out of the crowd stepped a little old Jewish man in his 80s. "Mr. Policeman," said the man, "I'm not a priest. I'm not even a Christian. But for 50 years now, I'm living behind the Catholic Church on Second Avenue , and every night I'm overhearing their services. I can recall a lot of it, and maybe I can be of some comfort to this poor man." The policeman agreed, and cleared the crowd so the man could get through to where the injured man lay. The old Jewish man knelt down, leaned over the man and said in a solemn voice: B-4 .... I-19 ... N-38 ... G-54 ... O-72.

Put Chris first, the rest will follow.
12.1.2009 | 2:25pm
T.H.E. says:
Will McCorkle, some of this addressed to Kristian applies to you: "please think a little, put away your fuzzy lib/lefty sentiments: The lib/lefty/feminist/humanist/secularist sacrament of abortion is intended to reduce the quantity of poor, as stated by Margaret Sanger herself, the foundress of Planned Parenthood and the archpriestess of the sacrament of abortion--the most active abortion mill in the world. The homosexual/homosexualist promotion of the homosexual 'marriage' nonsense is in a similar way intended to reduce the 'overpopulated' earth, or at least has that effect--you should ask yourself why the Russians give days off for staying home and procreating, after many years of pushing abortion hard.

There is no Christian charity known that worries exclusively about the evils of abortion and the homosexual 'marriage' nonsense--they all worry about the poor and work arduously to help them, BUT YOU KNEW THAT. You and the other libs/lefties are just a little bit too concerned about the poor to allow us to think anything but that you are really, THAT IS, REALLY, in favor of abortion and the homosexual 'marriage' nonsense.

GET INFORMED ABOUT THE WORK THAT CHRISTIANS DO TO HELP THE POOR, THAT IS, IF YOU ARE NOT."
12.1.2009 | 8:00pm
Colin Stitt says:
Hey Kristian! I appreciate good sarcasm and what you wrote is wonderful. You are exactly right in your message to 'Christians' It is far past time for all of us who feel good about declaring our faith in God to start living and loving like He showed us how to in the life of Jesus.
12.2.2009 | 4:44am
We need to stand together in a united front. Part of the problem is that we are not doers we just want to complain. Great article. Lets get to work.
12.2.2009 | 5:57am
Rita A. Cook says:
Thank you for allowing me to be a part of such a monumental document. God bless all involved.
12.2.2009 | 8:54am
Tom Carlton says:
As long as we allow our petty differences divide us, we cannot take a stand, it is in loving and working together that we will achieve the objectives God ordained.
12.2.2009 | 10:16am
Dan Smith says:
It has always been declared in UNITY there is STRENGTH. With God on our side we don't have to have a majority, just have to have WILLING AMBASSADORS. I really believe God is looking for those to stick together and stand STRONG and NOT BACK UP FROM OPPOSITION. Count me IN
12.2.2009 | 11:20am
GENA FARLEY says:
We have to do whatever is necessary to wake up our fellow Americans. We have to stand srong. There are too many willing to cast GOD out of our Country. In today's world, it is very evident that we have a very strong struggle going on between good and evil. For too many years, the loud minority have been adhered to in trying to remove God from our country.. Good people have to stand up as strong and as loud and keep God in our country. WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION.
12.2.2009 | 12:12pm
juey says:
Just google "German courts tightens Sunday shopping rules" and you will see exactly where this is heading, just as" unknown" mentioned in his/her comments. Perilous times ahead for " Ten Commandment (Sabbath) Keepers". Exodus 20: 8-11 and Heb 4: 1-11 ."
12.2.2009 | 1:35pm
Luis Howard says:
The New York state senate just rejected gay marriage 38 to 24. Praise the Lord!

We now have 237,127 signers!
12.2.2009 | 4:53pm
The doctrines of the Church, left by God and His Son through the Apostles, have been and are constant. It is men, within and without the Church, driven and confused by pride and the Eternal Liar, who confuses those doctrines for the initiated and uninitiated. Study, prayer, humility, forgiveness and welcoming is what brings clarity in time of temptation and confusion to follow the path left us by God and his Son. Within these perameters exist peace and forgiveness.
12.2.2009 | 6:52pm
This declaration is a true Godsend to the world. May his Divine Will reign on earth as in Heaven, especially in us & through us. FIAT!
12.3.2009 | 6:36am
Tom Voiland says:
I have great admiration for one of my high school friends, Mr. Robert Struble, Jr.
He is a great example of an active catholic gentleman, husband and father. Bob also plays piano bluegrass music like a professional from Nashville, TN.
Bob, is correct in asking that mention should be made of the United States involment in the unjustified wars in the Middle East. The undeclared wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are ongoing simply with the authority of the 1973 War Powers Act wich overrides the U.S. constitutional authority that gives Congress alone the power to Declare War. Does the U.S. Constitution need revision?
When diplomacy breaks down the bullets start flying. We should pray for good leaders in government that will help peoples live together without killing one another. Wars and abortion must end if we are to have peaceful co-existence on Earth.
12.3.2009 | 9:48am
I am thrilled to put my name with other Christians who take this stand and send a message that we will not lay down and allow others to force their values on us! I believe the Word of God is clear on these issues!!
12.3.2009 | 10:49am
God loves every individual and He desires to have a personal relationship with all.
As a believer in GOD and Jesus Christ I agree with this declaration.
12.3.2009 | 5:34pm
K. Rex Butts says:
I am opposed to abortion because it destroys a life that was not mine to take. I am opposed to war-making because it destroys a life that was not mine to take. I wish the the drafters of this document would realize that the same God who they claim abhores abortion also became incarnate and called for us to love our enemies and not kill them in the name of secular politics.

As a Christian I wish we would clean up our own house with regards to marriage before we start telling the world how they should view marriage. I know too many Christians who have left their spouse for no biblical reason only to remarry and the church tolerates it. Seems like the Christian church in America has already redefined biblical marriage.
12.3.2009 | 5:36pm
K. Rex Butts says:
What I really wish for is that Christian would stop using rhetoric and political tactics to try and preserve what some believe was a Christian culture. Instead I wish we would learn to bring cultural change the way Jesus did...by becoming self-sacrificial servants even to those who share no commonality with the confession and ethic. Maybe then others would see why Jesus is Lord.
12.4.2009 | 7:07am
Ron Warshall says:
I AGREE WITH THE PRINCIPLES OF THIS DECLARATION.
12.4.2009 | 9:43am
I totally agree
12.4.2009 | 1:07pm
Praise God that the Church has finally found what has been lost for so long-courage. The sad thought here is that this Declaration should never have been necessary at all. Today's Church is suffering from that horrible desease with the Latin name of "Non-rockaboatus Ecclesiastecus," no matter what you do, no rocka da boat. I do not want to rock the boat of church heresy, I want to sink it. Jesus asked us in Luke 6:46:"But why do you call Me Lord, Lord, and not do the things which I say?" When He asks the Church why we do permitted the liberal watering down of Scriptures, why do we tolerate homosexuality when God pronounced "anathema" on that horrible sin, why did we tolerate baby-killers when God called them "abominations", why do we tolerate liberal, false prophets and teachers, and worse of all, how could we ever have permitted heritical liberal ministers when the Bible has so clearly condemned them? When we as a church stand to face our Lord, what shall we say? All we can do at that point is to beg for forgiveness and pray for mercy and grace. See Matthew 24, Romans One, I & II Thessalonians, and Galatians 1:3-17; God was quite clear on what He demands of us. We were warned about our apostasy and still we fell in head first, and we are loosing the world because we do not have the courage to stand up, stand up for Jesus. Perhaps this is the start of the Christian Resistance I have so long searched and prayed for? If it is, then count me in, I will fight for my LORD-will you? May God have mercy on His people.
12.4.2009 | 1:41pm
Thank You, We all must be one with our Lord. Count me in. May God have mercy on us all. Marguerite Polk
12.5.2009 | 5:41am
2nd Chronicles 7:14 If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves,and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will heal their land.
12.5.2009 | 8:19am
K. Rex Butts says:
It doesn't take much courage to draft a document detailing convictions that one is already known to hold in order to try and maintain some resemblence of a "Christian culture" as though it is our privilege.

No, no... Courage would be to go out and love, self-sacrificially serve (just like Jesus did) to show and not just claim why Jesus is the way, truth, and life.
12.5.2009 | 12:15pm
david says:
this isn't really anything new. it's not an affirmation of faith or of standing up for "justice & the common good"--it's essentially a reaffirmation of right-wing ideological stances, which clearly mixes up true faith in Christ with (conservative) political activism.

if that's what it means to be a Believer in the u.s. today (conservative political activism), then count me out. let others sign their names on that one.

i'll just take Jesus.
12.5.2009 | 4:41pm
Colin Stitt says:
I remember some years back the teenagers all fell over themselves trying to sign the 'let true love wait' document. Actually there may have been no 'document' as such, but the way they put their mark on the resolution was to wear a ring to show that they were never going to have sex before they married! I bet all who read this comment know someone who wore the ring and became pregnant out of wedlock, or some guy who got a girl into trouble outside of marriage. It is oh so easy to wear the ring or sign the declaration and feel so good about what one has done. This declaration is far short of what we as Christ followers should be comitted to, and we should need no more than God's word to determine to obey Him and please Him in all that we do, think and say. Most, if not all who sign this thing tolerate sin in their lives and state that they love God! Wow, agape is choosing for His highest good, or pleasing Him every moment of every day, but I meet folks all the time who choose to sin many times every day and at the same time say they love God! Choosing to grieve God is the opposite to loving Him, and every sin you commit is nothing but your choice to refuse the escape route [1 Cor.10:13] that God has so graciously provided for each and every one of His children and to grieve Him. In fact your choice to sin is really throwing one of if not the greatest gift He has given you back in His face. Wake up saints! He has given you everything that you need to live a Godly, pure, holy, Christlike, righteous, victorious life. 2 Pet. 1:3 That is what Jesus came for.... to set you free from your sins. Mat. 1:21 Rom. 6 And that is what salvation is all about. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Turn from your wicked ways! Fearing God causes you to hate sin. Fear of God allows you to avoid sin. Prov. 8:13, 16:6 Just be what Christ taught you to be and no declaration will ever be necessary. The reason we face this crisis in America is nothing more than a result of God's children living in disobedience. So if we continue to live in such a way, millions of signatures on this document will make absolutely no difference. For God to bring healing, and He surely can, to this nation, His children need to obey and fulfill the conditions for the promise of 2 Chron. 7:14 WAKE UP SAINTS!
12.6.2009 | 8:35am
Kristin Rudy says:
I am a 21 year old voter, and I agree with this declaration. And if it were allowed, I would sign it.
12.6.2009 | 12:13pm
Luis Howard says:
For Kristin Rudy: You CAN indeed sign the derclaration, but at www.manhattandeclration.org. PLEASE DO, AND PLEASE SEND AROUND TO YOUR FRIENDS, COWORKERS, COSTUDENTS, NEIGHBORS, RELATIVES, ETC!!!

260,527 signers as of 3:00 pm EST!!! The rate does not appear to be growing as before, which may be very natural in this sort of phenomenon, but please, PLEASE, continue getting people you know to sign!

To the naysayers for social justice reasons: YOU take care of the other social justice problems, WE will take care of the FUNDAMENTAL social justice problem, abortion. If we do not correct this problem, and we will, you will have no social justice problems to work on.
12.6.2009 | 4:54pm
K. Rex Butts says:
Assuming this document is right in its content, it this the MEANS by which Jesus would have operated for change? I hardly think so...Jesus had many opportunities to take on the world via its socio-political power methods but Jesus chose the means of self-sacrificial service which took him to a cross.
12.6.2009 | 7:30pm
Steve Drake says:
I will be proud to add my name to the signers of this declaration. May God bless thee and keep thee.
12.8.2009 | 9:05pm
Alan Hughes says:
I will not join with the world in attacking the Church for not being more like the world. The Church is the Bride of Christ and most of the good in the world is because of the Church not in spite of it.
12.11.2009 | 5:38am
I'm glad to add my name to this list. May we all stand up for our Christian principles and rights! I agree 100% with this document!
12.13.2009 | 6:58am
David J Ring says:
I have read the document and I agree with it. I hope and pray that it has the desired effect on our elected officials.
12.13.2009 | 7:43pm
JESUS IS LOVE....and in our constitution we have the freedom to religion, so this says that our first leaders did not do anything with out the guidance of God. Look in history all our former Presidents where Christians so why change what they have founded.
12.13.2009 | 8:50pm
I'm glad to add my name to this list. May we all stand up for our Christian principles and rights! I agree 100% with this document!
12.15.2009 | 6:45pm
Luis says:
295833 signers as of 9:30 pm EST.

Please, keep pushing this with your neighbors, coworkers, friends, relatives. We need to put Obama/Pelosi/Reid in a position so that when the elections of 2010 come around, they cannot say "We didn't know that the people didn't want health care with publicly funded abortions." Of course, they would never say "with publicly funded abortions," although they should be able to say "with comingled public and private funds." The truth is, Americans don't want abortion at all--some consciously, those who know what abortion is and what it does to women and the nation, and some only subconsciously. Abortion was a pathetic attempt by feminists/secularists/humanists to make women the same as men, and it did not work. God help us.
12.16.2009 | 12:08pm
Luis says:
297,399 signers as of 3:00 pm EST--THAT IS 1,566 MORE SIGNERS SINCE YESTERDAY AT 9:30 PM EST, 18.5 HOURS.

Pray, friends, so that this noble work grows to the point where the libs/lefties/secularists/humanists/homosexualists/feminists cannot ignore it. The last paragraph says it all: CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is preferable to obeying immoral laws.

And, the evil health care bill that Harry Reid and Max Baucus (not Dick Durbin, because he doesn't know what's in it, self admittedly) are pushing is apparently in trouble--PRAY THAT IT FAIL.
12.17.2009 | 11:14am
GOD is Love. Love is a spiritual emotion. All else, is physical desire. GOD has given us guidance and we have free will to obey or dis-obey. As Christians, we do Not get to choose which of GOD's Commandments are valid or not. We follow the Word of GOD, or we do not. We shall all be judged, alone before Christ, no lawyers, no excuses, no advocates, just the thoughts, words, and deeds of every day of our entire life. There will be no appeal after Christ's Judgement. Amen
12.17.2009 | 4:26pm
I have read and agree with this Declaration. I pray that it will move our elected officials to realize that the majority of Americans worry not only about our elderly and their quality of life, but also the rights of all citizens to refuse to be taxed to pay for publicly funded abortions, to which they are vehemetly against.
All things are possible through prayer!
PRAY-PRAY-PRAY-PRAY-PRAY-PRAY!
Even the faintest of voices are heard loud and clear.
12.19.2009 | 9:17pm
Colin Stitt says:
Patricia, God's word tells us that He does not even listen to the prayers of those who disobey Him, so be careful how you glibly use 'spiritual words'
12.26.2009 | 3:58pm
12/26/09 I signed and am 100% behind it. The problem is that, in a country so blessed as ours, we who would do civil disobedience have so much to lose should we dare confront the dragons who rule us. Most of us signers would probably, however, take the plunge AS LONG AS we have the assurance that we ALL are taking it together. ("I'll refuse to pay taxes if you do too!" "Great idea! You go first!" "No, YOU go first!")
Signing such a document when flush with enthusiasm is one thing. The inevitable buyer's remorse that will hit most of us, when it comes time to close the deal with risky action, is another.
How do resolve this human failing and really ALL do it together?
12.26.2009 | 5:46pm
rey says:
Personally I would have left out all the historical claims and boiled the whole thing down to the last paragraph (except maybe using the word righteousness rather than justice):

Because we honor justice and the common good, we will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family. We will fully and ungrudgingly render to Caesar what is Caesar’s. But under no circumstances will we render to Caesar what is God’s.
12.29.2009 | 8:39am
Alton L Hood says:
We're very grateful for the Manhattan Declaration.How do we sign up?
The Lord bless you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Al Hood, M.D.
aohood@aol.com
12.31.2009 | 9:31am
Praaise the Lord, Its good to see some of the Christian Churches and Christians Uniting and standing up for our beliefs
12.31.2009 | 10:59am
Lisa, CA says:
Thank you for this ecumenical document upholding the value of life, and the dignity of marriage and religious freedom. Truly, natural law is clear, and it is unfortunate how many people cannot see the simplicity and truth that God has created in our own bodies. Men and women have babies, a woman's child is hidden deep within the recesses of her abdomen, a most protected place. Our pregnancies last for some time, and the neediness of that child continues outside the womb. Once a mother, always a mother, even if that child dies, in utero or outside of it. God, the divine creator, has truly created us with a profound beauty, complexity, and above all, order. There is an order to everything, regardless of whether individuals choose to recognize that order. In our human weakness, we many times choose "dis"order; other times, disorder comes without our asking for it. We need compassion for those who struggle with disordered appetites, as varied as they are, and help them choose the good and pray for them as well.

As the mother of a child whose peers are systematically being killed/eliminated out of existence (our beautiful, joyful child was born with Down Syndrome), let us pray for a renewed vigor to protect the lives of the unborn, as diverse and special as they are. Let us not embrace eugenics as an acceptable practice. Let us, on the contrary, be horrified at the thought that certain groups of individuals do not have the right to see the light of day. It is truly a horror.
1.5.2010 | 5:07am
This document's time has come. The principles here are shared by Christians of all denominations. Many of these principles are shared by people who aren't Christian, but are nonetheless endowed by their creator with a healthy measure of common sense.

We're in trouble folks. There's a seven year old girl in Virginia whom the courts have transferred into the legal custody of her mother's former lesbian domestic partner. This custody transfer actually makes sense to many Americans! That's how far our "civilization" has fallen from good sense and common decency.

It's hard to foresee just what travesties will result from misguided but well intentioned meddling in family law. All we can know for certain is that travesties will result. We have to resist.
1.6.2010 | 3:37pm
Luis says:
321,149 signers as of January 6. Growing, but we need more. Please continue to insist to your friends, relatives, coworkers to sign. The website, of course, is manhattandeclaration.org.

Let us beg the Lord to help us, in this way, let the social engineers in Washington know that we are having none of their progressivism. THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THE DECLARATION SAYS IT ALL: "...we will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family."

WE WILL NOT COMPLY OBAMA'S NONSENSE! WE WILL NOT!!!
1.9.2010 | 6:03am
I have drafted a Christian response to the Manhattan Declaration, which I uploaded to my blog at http://www.trans-cendence.blogspot.com

I am disappointed that so many have been duped by the insidious yet seductive writing of Princeton professor Robert P. George, who, among other things, is the board chair of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), a group whose objective is to deny legal recognition of civil rights to minority groups.

The entire structure of the Manhattan Declaration fails. It is not Christian but is Christianist. It ignores the beautiful scripture-based doctrine that we are ensouled at birth when we take our first breath, the doctrine on which the symbolism of the Sacrament of Baptism is based. It completely ignores the culture of death represented by capital punishment and war, while elevating the status of the blueprint and the foundation to the status of the competed and inhabited house.

It ignores the messages of 1 Samuel 18, Isaiah 56, Matthew 19:12, and Acts 8.

It ignores the religious freedom of anyone other than those whose beliefs coincide with those of the author, or are fully compatible in the areas addressed by the document. While it acknowledges the sincerity of those who disagree, it is cleat that we disagree at our peril, since the author makes it clear that the persecution will continue.
1.9.2010 | 4:31pm
Susan says:
Since we are proof texting here, consider the admonition about taking the log out your own eye before addressing the speck in another’s eye. When I hear puffed up religious leaders writing and encouraging people to sign a "Declaration" addressing greed and compassion without judgmentalism, then I may pay attention. Otherwise, once again, it’s just about wanting to control somebody else’s sex life, as usual.
1.10.2010 | 6:57pm
Jim Grisham says:
Jesus exercised force when he overturned the tables of the money changers in the temple. Francis of Assisi talks about restraining Brother Fox from attacking Sister Hen. Dietrick Bonhoeffer plotted the death of Adolf Hitler. Martin Luther King, Jr., praised the use of civil disobedience and demonstrations, many of which became violent, in the fight for social justice in the 1960's civil rights demonstrations. I was there. And the fact remains that "the absence of war is not peace." Often it is acquiescence in the repression of others. My dad fought in WWII at Guadacanal and the Solomon Islands. We used to argue about the use of the atomic bomb in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but eventually I accepted his logic. Had the United States invaded the Japanese islands, the war would have lasted longer and more people would have been killed on both sides. The use of the bomb put a quick end to the war. I would like to ask where all the peace activists have been when millions died during the domination of Eastern Europe and China by communism, as well as the ongoing direct killing of pre-born humans in the wombs of their mothers, and the current sanction of said action by our President and the Democratic majority in Congress. My former AA sponsor had a coffee cup which carried the words, "I do my best and I leave the rest to God." My faith tells me I must do the same.
1.11.2010 | 5:34pm
David Sun says:
I've been paying attention to the number of signers since I signed it one week ago. I am in China and the political issues of the United States have nothing to do with me. What I supported was the issues of the sanctity of life and religious liberty. No one knows how many babies have been aborted since 1980s under the nationwide implementation of family planning policy in this country. But nobody has voiced anything. They dare not! They can not!

But when I heard that Americans have this issue in the last few decades from my American friends. I was SHOCKED. Is US a Christian nation? Why killing lives, defenseless lives became an issue there? When I saw the Manhattan Declaration, I was so thankful that there are people who would like to stand up and say, "enough, let's go back to God's standard and define life as God defines it. (Psalm 139). The memories of how my second daughter Esther was born are still fresh. My wife and I tried several ways just to protect Esther from being aborted by force. Who can understand how that feels? That was the time when we wanted to go to America. But we couldn't get the passport since in those years, a citizen has to be approved by 8 different government offices, including the community family planning administration office, before he can apply for a passport.

Religious liberty is an issue here too. Just in last September, the little Christian group my wife and I am taking care of was attacked by local authorities. We were told that we were illegal religious facility. We could go nowhere for help other than from God himself. Now God's children in America have this call for religious liberty. I felt that is a precious voice. And I rejoice with them, hoping that the Religious Liberty will come in this country too. Some Americans are like spoiled children by there parents. They were enjoying religious liberty but they do not value it. Now they know that how precious that is.

Homosexuality is not the issue in this country. There are homosexuals. But their way of life is too far away from traditional Chinese values. They are always underground.

I signed this declaration to show my support to the body of Christ in America in their stand with the Scriptural truths. Go forth, Americans, at least, there is one from this side of the earth who supports you. We are all children of God. I wrote an article in Chinese in my blog. I will tell my friends about the declaration.
1.12.2010 | 10:14pm
Luis says:
There are 366,076 signers as of 1:00 am EST 1/13/10. About 45,000 more since 1/6/10. Quite an increase! A little more than 6,000 per day.

Those of us who will be in Marches for Life, Walk for Life in San Francisco, should do all they can to spread the word about this noble, beautiful, courageous attempt to let the Obama people know that they will not win.
1.12.2010 | 10:17pm
Luis says:
Joann, NOM's purpose is not deny legal recognition of civil rights to minority groups--The United States, the greatest country in the history of man, has thrived, prospered, precisely because of the freedoms, the opportunities for all, including minority groups. Now, if you mean that NOM doesn't want homosexuals to call their perversions marriage, you would be correct but that is not what you said, rather attempting to euphemize. Normal people understand that marriage is for one man and one woman.

As to discussing war and capital punishment in connection with a document about abortion, you are trying entirely too hard. There is no comparison. On the other hand, MANY of us do oppose war and capital punishment and work very hard against them.

Susan, no one wants to control anyone else's sex life. Please tell us how keeping a mother from killing her baby has anything that resembles controlling anyone's sex life. If you mean allowing homosexuals to call their perversions marriage, please tell us how that would be related to controlling anyone's sex life.

David Sun, thank you for your post. It is very uplifting.
1.14.2010 | 2:00pm
Parents of SIX.
Grandparents of SIXTEEN.
Great Grandparents of TEN.
PRAISE THE LORD!
1.20.2010 | 11:27am
What I did read of this document, I totally agree with and I also agree with this eloquent statement made by ---- Kirstin

I agree that this declaration is an excellent (and overdue) step in the right direction. I commend and stand with all who have affixed their names and all who will. I'll sign it too. Larry Miller and others who may agree with him: Respectfully, marriage is not a political or civil rights football to be tossed about. It is not a term that should be elasticized either. Too often those of us who support traditional marriage cave in to the modern idea that the marriage "battle" needs to be fought on the field of "equal rights." But not everything can be equal in this world. For instance, in a perfectly fair and equal world, blind people would be entitled to drive, regardless. But the physical reality of their situation doesn't permit it. In the case of marriage, the Manhattan Declaration eloquently makes the central point with which I totally agree: marriage is an sexual bond across the male/female divide, not one between members of the same sex. The word marriage denotes that special and unique bond. Marriage isn't about equal rights; it is about a biological (among other things) intercourse between opposites, about a union of the two. Only that kind of union can (notice I didn't say "must") naturally produce progeny. That reality isn't a legal point, it is a physical fact of nature and thus cannot be subject mandates of equality under man-made law. Attempts to change the definition of marriage, to expand it and dilute it, are unacceptable to many of us for this basic reason. That gay couples want to have a means of legalizing their relationships is undeniable, but for that purpose we have -- already -- civil unions.
1.26.2010 | 6:36pm
Dena says:
I wonder why they were only able to rope in four women? Too bad Midge Decter is Jewish; she is usually the token female in this kind of conservative endeavor.
1.29.2010 | 5:14pm
amen
2.8.2010 | 4:23am
R. Hampton,

You wrote:

"You want to win me over? Push against divorce with equal vigor and voice. "

Personally, I'm not sure "winning you over" is a good idea. Maybe you serve God's purpose better by arguing against us.

Sensible Christians don't "push against divorce with equal vigor and voice" because all divorce is not condemned by the Bible. Some divorce is tolerated.

As an aside, I will concede to you that when I was young and idealistic, I had no problem with gay marriage or gay civil unions. I didn't have any problem with gays serving openly in the military either. It was only after I saw the social and legal consequences of gay marriage & civil unions, and served in the Marines myself for 8+ years, that I changed my tune.

I've lived too long and seen too much to be confused by clever arguments. In practice, same sex marriage, same sex parenting and gays in the military are bad for us as individuals and a nation.
2.11.2010 | 2:20pm
Thanks so much for this Declaration, its about time we as Christians and true Americans stand up for the Principles and the Word of GOD that this nation was founded on. I also think the the Constitution (Original) should be taught and discussed in every school in the USA.Just imagine if all the kids in all the schools actually knew what was in the Constitution. And how about the BIble and Prayer back in schools again also. How many children know the words of Psalm 139.
2.22.2010 | 5:34pm
Hilda Melkus says:
Thank you for standing for what is right.
3.8.2010 | 9:05am
thank you so much from standing up for unboarn childeren. i would not have been born if it was not for my mom standing up for what she believes
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