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		<title>By: The World Wide (Religious) Web for Monday, December 12, 2011: Religion Stories from A to, Uh, P&#8230; &#171; GeorgePWood.com</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20464</link>
		<dc:creator>The World Wide (Religious) Web for Monday, December 12, 2011: Religion Stories from A to, Uh, P&#8230; &#171; GeorgePWood.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CULTURE: “What the Cultural Mandate Is Not.” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Snow</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20444</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 13:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Evangelization requires that we proclaim, not only God’s saving grace, but the norms by which he intends those who are in Christ to live.&quot;

Looking at the norms displayed around us, it is blatantly obvious that chuches have done a poor job of proclamation.  

Who would have ever dreamed that some churches would be promoting same sex marriage?!

But then, in my present church, one of the elders is now engaged to the wife of another Chrstian.

That is what happens when Christians sit silently and allow key Christian basics like &quot;love&quot; and &quot;forgiveness&quot; to be squeezed into the world&#039;s mold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Evangelization requires that we proclaim, not only God’s saving grace, but the norms by which he intends those who are in Christ to live.&#8221;</p>
<p>Looking at the norms displayed around us, it is blatantly obvious that chuches have done a poor job of proclamation.  </p>
<p>Who would have ever dreamed that some churches would be promoting same sex marriage?!</p>
<p>But then, in my present church, one of the elders is now engaged to the wife of another Chrstian.</p>
<p>That is what happens when Christians sit silently and allow key Christian basics like &#8220;love&#8221; and &#8220;forgiveness&#8221; to be squeezed into the world&#8217;s mold.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Mator</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20443</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Mator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are fulfilling the cultural mandate by promoting the appropriate use of language and metaphor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are fulfilling the cultural mandate by promoting the appropriate use of language and metaphor.</p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20439</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hammered&quot; in a good way, that is -- but the effect on them is &quot;striking&quot; (to pun a bit, but hopefully to make the point.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hammered&#8221; in a good way, that is &#8212; but the effect on them is &#8220;striking&#8221; (to pun a bit, but hopefully to make the point.)</p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20438</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I believe David is referring to the fact that five out of six prior comments were about word usage, not substance.

For the record,I think the substance was excellent; I just had nothing to add!

Anthony, I agree that impact as a verb can be good and doesn&#039;t always have to refer to physical force or dentistry, and I like your example -- those people ARE getting &quot;hammered.&quot; But it&#039;s *overused* in situations where &quot;effect&quot; would be better; that&#039;s not to say there are no situations where &quot;impact&quot; is better. People go around talking about things like the &quot;impact&quot; of prices on the budget -- in that case, why not just say &quot;effect?&quot; The only reason is that people just say &quot;impact&quot; all the time without thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I believe David is referring to the fact that five out of six prior comments were about word usage, not substance.</p>
<p>For the record,I think the substance was excellent; I just had nothing to add!</p>
<p>Anthony, I agree that impact as a verb can be good and doesn&#8217;t always have to refer to physical force or dentistry, and I like your example &#8212; those people ARE getting &#8220;hammered.&#8221; But it&#8217;s *overused* in situations where &#8220;effect&#8221; would be better; that&#8217;s not to say there are no situations where &#8220;impact&#8221; is better. People go around talking about things like the &#8220;impact&#8221; of prices on the budget &#8212; in that case, why not just say &#8220;effect?&#8221; The only reason is that people just say &#8220;impact&#8221; all the time without thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Drake</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20437</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David #7,
What? You and Andy Crouch are right and everyone else is wrong? No one is allowed to disagree with the conclusion of your post? :)</description>
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What? You and Andy Crouch are right and everyone else is wrong? No one is allowed to disagree with the conclusion of your post? :)</p>
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		<title>By: David T. Koyzis</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20436</link>
		<dc:creator>David T. Koyzis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. It seems the &lt;em&gt;substance&lt;/em&gt; of this post has failed to impact most of its readers. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. It seems the <em>substance</em> of this post has failed to impact most of its readers. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Mator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Mator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the contrary, Pentamom, I prefer &quot;impact&quot; over &quot;effect.&quot; When I try to use &quot;effect,&quot; it more often than not feels awkward and unnatural. &quot;Impact&quot; has easy semantic force and just flows better. It has more of a...shall we say...impact!

You think of dentistry, but I think of the countless times I have been assigned with the task of inspiring donors to &quot;make an impact on the poorest of the poor&quot; or thanking them for doing so. As far as I know, it has never conjured up in their minds the image of a hammer impacting a starving old man in the skull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the contrary, Pentamom, I prefer &#8220;impact&#8221; over &#8220;effect.&#8221; When I try to use &#8220;effect,&#8221; it more often than not feels awkward and unnatural. &#8220;Impact&#8221; has easy semantic force and just flows better. It has more of a&#8230;shall we say&#8230;impact!</p>
<p>You think of dentistry, but I think of the countless times I have been assigned with the task of inspiring donors to &#8220;make an impact on the poorest of the poor&#8221; or thanking them for doing so. As far as I know, it has never conjured up in their minds the image of a hammer impacting a starving old man in the skull.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Drake</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20433</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Reformed Christians often refer to Genesis 1:28 as the Cultural Mandate. There is nothing especially earth-shaking in this; it is simply affirming that, as God’s image-bearers, we shape the world around us and adapt it to a diversity of uses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, it &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; is earth-shaking as the &lt;i&gt;first&lt;/i&gt; command of God to our historical parents, Adam and Eve, and their progeny, and carries heavy significance with God&#039;s purpose and intent in creating them in the first place. The Hebrew word &lt;i&gt;radah&lt;/i&gt; carries the idea of rule, subdue, dominion. This command has never been nullified, thus still in effect, and was confirmed and expanded to Noah after the great universal and global Flood (Gen. 9:6-7). 

It goes by another name, &#039;The Dominion Mandate&#039;, but has possible bad connotations with &#039;Dominion Theology&#039;, and thus &#039;Cultural Mandate&#039; is preferable? In either case, in my opinion, was not only not &#039;not especially earth-shaking&#039;, but acted as an amelioration of the effects of the historical Fall, and a major motivation for the scientific research, exploration, and discovery of God&#039;s created order in our world. Immensely earth-shaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Reformed Christians often refer to Genesis 1:28 as the Cultural Mandate. There is nothing especially earth-shaking in this; it is simply affirming that, as God’s image-bearers, we shape the world around us and adapt it to a diversity of uses.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, it <i>really</i> is earth-shaking as the <i>first</i> command of God to our historical parents, Adam and Eve, and their progeny, and carries heavy significance with God&#8217;s purpose and intent in creating them in the first place. The Hebrew word <i>radah</i> carries the idea of rule, subdue, dominion. This command has never been nullified, thus still in effect, and was confirmed and expanded to Noah after the great universal and global Flood (Gen. 9:6-7). </p>
<p>It goes by another name, &#8216;The Dominion Mandate&#8217;, but has possible bad connotations with &#8216;Dominion Theology&#8217;, and thus &#8216;Cultural Mandate&#8217; is preferable? In either case, in my opinion, was not only not &#8216;not especially earth-shaking&#8217;, but acted as an amelioration of the effects of the historical Fall, and a major motivation for the scientific research, exploration, and discovery of God&#8217;s created order in our world. Immensely earth-shaking.</p>
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		<title>By: David T. Koyzis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T. Koyzis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would that all people were as easily brought to a blissful state! You are most welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would that all people were as easily brought to a blissful state! You are most welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20429</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blissful.  ;-) Thanks for tolerating my correction so graciously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blissful.  ;-) Thanks for tolerating my correction so graciously.</p>
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		<title>By: David T. Koyzis</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T. Koyzis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There! Happy now? :-)</description>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/11/what-the-cultural-mandate-is-not/#comment-20426</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my cultural mission for the day:  getting otherwise excellent writers to stop using &quot;impact&quot; or &quot;impacted&quot; as a verb in contexts not related to dentistry. One way to guard against this is to remember that &quot;impact&quot; even as a noun is frequently overused when &quot;effect&quot; would be better. &quot;Impact&quot; should be reserved for conveying a really &quot;weighty&quot; effect (thus staying true to the metaphoric sense of the word.)

Sorry for the pedantic rant, but if just a few of us hold out, then maybe....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my cultural mission for the day:  getting otherwise excellent writers to stop using &#8220;impact&#8221; or &#8220;impacted&#8221; as a verb in contexts not related to dentistry. One way to guard against this is to remember that &#8220;impact&#8221; even as a noun is frequently overused when &#8220;effect&#8221; would be better. &#8220;Impact&#8221; should be reserved for conveying a really &#8220;weighty&#8221; effect (thus staying true to the metaphoric sense of the word.)</p>
<p>Sorry for the pedantic rant, but if just a few of us hold out, then maybe&#8230;.</p>
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