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		<title>By: FRC Blog &#187; The Social Conservative Review: October 6, 2011</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-20008</link>
		<dc:creator>FRC Blog &#187; The Social Conservative Review: October 6, 2011</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;On Marriage: Jane Eyre Contra Robertson,&#8221; John Mark Reynolds, Evangel [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Craig Payne</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19930</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  Never mind.  I had not yet scrolled down to see Sarah Flashing&#039;s article, below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  Never mind.  I had not yet scrolled down to see Sarah Flashing&#8217;s article, below.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Payne</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19929</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Pat Robertson:  Since he thinks, evidently, that one can &quot;stop&quot; being a person, does he also think that one &quot;becomes&quot; a person with rights at some point?  In other words, does anyone know his views on abortion, and do they contradict his current statement on marriage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Pat Robertson:  Since he thinks, evidently, that one can &#8220;stop&#8221; being a person, does he also think that one &#8220;becomes&#8221; a person with rights at some point?  In other words, does anyone know his views on abortion, and do they contradict his current statement on marriage?</p>
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		<title>By: John Mark Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19917</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mark Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of this and have found this to be the most discussion I have experienced in some time on this or any other board. Very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of this and have found this to be the most discussion I have experienced in some time on this or any other board. Very helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Aine_McD</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19916</link>
		<dc:creator>Aine_McD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Mark,

I can accept that Jane found a &quot;sort of happiness&quot; and &quot;human flourishing&quot; with friends, family, and work.  But, it is clear from the story that her happiest, best, and most fulfilling years came at the end of the story when she was reunited with Edward.  (Further disproving Robertson&#039;s argument for divorce, because Jane was very happy caring for a &quot;blind, crippled, emotionally broken man&quot; who was her beloved!)

The human experience is certainly full of examples where the &quot;happiness&quot; one hoped for with the beloved does not come to pass.  In those cases, the wound and hope for reunion may never go away.  However, those of us who follow Christ must find a way to &quot;move on&quot; so that we can flourish by serving God and others without the beloved.  In these faithful actions there is indeed flourishing and &quot;a sort of happiness,&quot;  but it is a path of sacrifice, service, and sometimes pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Mark,</p>
<p>I can accept that Jane found a &#8220;sort of happiness&#8221; and &#8220;human flourishing&#8221; with friends, family, and work.  But, it is clear from the story that her happiest, best, and most fulfilling years came at the end of the story when she was reunited with Edward.  (Further disproving Robertson&#8217;s argument for divorce, because Jane was very happy caring for a &#8220;blind, crippled, emotionally broken man&#8221; who was her beloved!)</p>
<p>The human experience is certainly full of examples where the &#8220;happiness&#8221; one hoped for with the beloved does not come to pass.  In those cases, the wound and hope for reunion may never go away.  However, those of us who follow Christ must find a way to &#8220;move on&#8221; so that we can flourish by serving God and others without the beloved.  In these faithful actions there is indeed flourishing and &#8220;a sort of happiness,&#8221;  but it is a path of sacrifice, service, and sometimes pain.</p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19915</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think John Mark&#039;s &quot;happiness&quot; here, however limited, works because it&#039;s antithetical to what Robertson is trying to feed us -- that without our heart&#039;s earthly desire, there can be absolutely no satisfaction or value in our lives and we may as well chuck whatever gets in our way, as long as we can somehow justify it. John Mark points out that Jane gives us an example of how this need not be so, and ought not be sufficient reason to make us unable to resist this kind of temptation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think John Mark&#8217;s &#8220;happiness&#8221; here, however limited, works because it&#8217;s antithetical to what Robertson is trying to feed us &#8212; that without our heart&#8217;s earthly desire, there can be absolutely no satisfaction or value in our lives and we may as well chuck whatever gets in our way, as long as we can somehow justify it. John Mark points out that Jane gives us an example of how this need not be so, and ought not be sufficient reason to make us unable to resist this kind of temptation.</p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19914</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And somewhat ironically, the point at which she became truly happy was when she gave her life to caring for a blind, crippled, emotionally broken man. Put that piece into the puzzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And somewhat ironically, the point at which she became truly happy was when she gave her life to caring for a blind, crippled, emotionally broken man. Put that piece into the puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mark Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19912</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mark Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 04:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you accept &quot;a sort of happiness?&quot;

I mean by happiness &quot;human flourishing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you accept &#8220;a sort of happiness?&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean by happiness &#8220;human flourishing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Mark Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19911</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mark Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 04:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aine . . . 

Your reading may vary, but I think one part of her life (marriage) was closed off to her. In that sense, she was not happy with one part of her life, but she was going on. She could not marry St. John, but she could live as a normal wholesome person. 

In one sense, I so miss people now dead (such as my Aunt Karen and Uncle Roddy) that in one way I will never be happy again until paradise.

And yet . . . in another way I am happy. That is how I see Jane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aine . . . </p>
<p>Your reading may vary, but I think one part of her life (marriage) was closed off to her. In that sense, she was not happy with one part of her life, but she was going on. She could not marry St. John, but she could live as a normal wholesome person. </p>
<p>In one sense, I so miss people now dead (such as my Aunt Karen and Uncle Roddy) that in one way I will never be happy again until paradise.</p>
<p>And yet . . . in another way I am happy. That is how I see Jane.</p>
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		<title>By: Aine_McD</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/09/on-marriage-jane-eyre-contra-robertson/#comment-19910</link>
		<dc:creator>Aine_McD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lovely post about the hard work and sacrifice that a marriage requires; and I agree that Robertson is wrong to excuse divorce when a spouse is ill.  

However, as a fan of Jane Eyre, I don&#039;t know that Jane &quot;found happiness&quot; without Rochester.  She was noble and content with friends, family, and work; but I don&#039;t think she was truly &quot;happy&quot; until she was reunited with her beloved at a time when it was appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lovely post about the hard work and sacrifice that a marriage requires; and I agree that Robertson is wrong to excuse divorce when a spouse is ill.  </p>
<p>However, as a fan of Jane Eyre, I don&#8217;t know that Jane &#8220;found happiness&#8221; without Rochester.  She was noble and content with friends, family, and work; but I don&#8217;t think she was truly &#8220;happy&#8221; until she was reunited with her beloved at a time when it was appropriate.</p>
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