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		<title>By: donsands</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18280</link>
		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 13:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But Obama does not support infanticide.&quot;-Bret

He surely does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But Obama does not support infanticide.&#8221;-Bret</p>
<p>He surely does.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bret Lythgoe</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18277</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret Lythgoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 09:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>donsands: certainly Obama&#039;s abortion position is regretable. But Obama does not support infanticide. 

Is there a moral distinction, between abortion, and infanticide? Not in my judgment. 

So, Obama&#039;s abortion position, may entail him, logically, to accept infanticide, he in fact does not accept it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>donsands: certainly Obama&#8217;s abortion position is regretable. But Obama does not support infanticide. </p>
<p>Is there a moral distinction, between abortion, and infanticide? Not in my judgment. </p>
<p>So, Obama&#8217;s abortion position, may entail him, logically, to accept infanticide, he in fact does not accept it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Drake</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18269</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 20:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, dear brother. Agreed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, dear brother. Agreed!</p>
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		<title>By: donsands</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18268</link>
		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 20:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His stance on abortion and infanticide. He is pro partial birth abortion as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His stance on abortion and infanticide. He is pro partial birth abortion as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Drake</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18267</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 19:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Don Sands:&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;If not for His grace i am in Osama’s place, or even Obama’s place.&lt;/i&gt;

We know that Usama bin Laden is dead. What is it but for the grace of God about Obama&#039;s place that you wish or do not wish to be in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Don Sands:</b><br />
<i>If not for His grace i am in Osama’s place, or even Obama’s place.</i></p>
<p>We know that Usama bin Laden is dead. What is it but for the grace of God about Obama&#8217;s place that you wish or do not wish to be in?</p>
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		<title>By: donsands</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18264</link>
		<dc:creator>donsands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God is longsuffering. I praise Him for that. If not for His grace i am in Osama&#039;s place, or even Obama&#039;s place.
I was thinking how in this life there are those who reject Christ, and hate Him with a passion, like that comedian Griffith. And there are those who simply reject Jesus, and may even say He is a prophet. But they basically obey the laws of the land, and so do not have to be hunted down and brought to justice like Bin Laden was, or any other murderer.
Yet they will all end up in front of Christ, and He will say, &quot;Depart from Me.&quot; Even those who say &quot;Lord, we did all sorts of things for You.&quot;

Scary. 
Good post BTW. Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God is longsuffering. I praise Him for that. If not for His grace i am in Osama&#8217;s place, or even Obama&#8217;s place.<br />
I was thinking how in this life there are those who reject Christ, and hate Him with a passion, like that comedian Griffith. And there are those who simply reject Jesus, and may even say He is a prophet. But they basically obey the laws of the land, and so do not have to be hunted down and brought to justice like Bin Laden was, or any other murderer.<br />
Yet they will all end up in front of Christ, and He will say, &#8220;Depart from Me.&#8221; Even those who say &#8220;Lord, we did all sorts of things for You.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scary.<br />
Good post BTW. Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Drake</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18263</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not trying to be a peacemaker here, or jump in where I might not have biz&#039;ness&#039; but can we define the meaning of &#039;regret&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not trying to be a peacemaker here, or jump in where I might not have biz&#8217;ness&#8217; but can we define the meaning of &#8216;regret&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18258</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you don&#039;t get it, you don&#039;t get it.

And if I don&#039;t get what you&#039;re saying, then I&#039;m sorry.

2 ships passing in the night.

C&#039;est la vie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you don&#8217;t get it, you don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>And if I don&#8217;t get what you&#8217;re saying, then I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
<p>2 ships passing in the night.</p>
<p>C&#8217;est la vie.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gilson</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18257</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 15:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TUAD,

I&#039;m going to note that in spite of my caution to you in two prior comments, you still haven&#039;t put this &quot;regret&quot; into proper context. I want that to be clear for the sake of other readers who might otherwise think you were accurately representing what I had written; just as I want it to be clear that you were representing me &lt;em&gt;in&lt;/em&gt;accurately with what you wrote in comment #3.

I&#039;m left wondering the biblical grounds for your position, which you still haven&#039;t stated (your most recent answer doesn&#039;t explain anything biblically), and which therefore I&#039;m still not sure you have. But if you&#039;re satisfied with an incomplete answer, I&#039;ll just note it (regretfully) as such; I&#039;m willing to leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TUAD,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to note that in spite of my caution to you in two prior comments, you still haven&#8217;t put this &#8220;regret&#8221; into proper context. I want that to be clear for the sake of other readers who might otherwise think you were accurately representing what I had written; just as I want it to be clear that you were representing me <em>in</em>accurately with what you wrote in comment #3.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m left wondering the biblical grounds for your position, which you still haven&#8217;t stated (your most recent answer doesn&#8217;t explain anything biblically), and which therefore I&#8217;m still not sure you have. But if you&#8217;re satisfied with an incomplete answer, I&#8217;ll just note it (regretfully) as such; I&#8217;m willing to leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18256</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 13:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biblical position is that this is a matter of Christian liberty.

If a Christian wants to &quot;regret deeply the end to which Osama bin Laden has come” like you do, that&#039;s for him or her.

If a Christian does not &quot;regret deeply the end to which Osama bin Laden has come&quot; (unlike you), that&#039;s also for him or her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biblical position is that this is a matter of Christian liberty.</p>
<p>If a Christian wants to &#8220;regret deeply the end to which Osama bin Laden has come” like you do, that&#8217;s for him or her.</p>
<p>If a Christian does not &#8220;regret deeply the end to which Osama bin Laden has come&#8221; (unlike you), that&#8217;s also for him or her.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gilson</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18253</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 10:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TUAD,

Hmmm. A bit snarky. I&#039;ll answer your question in a moment, but first, a kind of reminder of what&#039;s going on as I see it.

I set forth a biblical case for my position. You said you had come to a different position, and you expressed it as if you were content that it was a good one. You did it without any biblical or other explanation or justification. So I asked if you had one. Based on your prior contributions here, being biblical appears to be one of your values, so it seemed fair to ask whether you have some Scripture-based reason for the position you took—especially since your position was opposed to one that had been supported with Scripture.

I also asked you to consider the context. I&#039;ll ask you the same thing again, because the context shows just what it is that I regret about the end to which bin Laden has come, and also what I do not regret about it.

Is it a biblical position that any Christian who disagrees with that snippet of what I wrote is sinning? No. I did not represent it as such. I&#039;ve answered your question now. I call on you to answer mine, rather than deflecting it as you have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TUAD,</p>
<p>Hmmm. A bit snarky. I&#8217;ll answer your question in a moment, but first, a kind of reminder of what&#8217;s going on as I see it.</p>
<p>I set forth a biblical case for my position. You said you had come to a different position, and you expressed it as if you were content that it was a good one. You did it without any biblical or other explanation or justification. So I asked if you had one. Based on your prior contributions here, being biblical appears to be one of your values, so it seemed fair to ask whether you have some Scripture-based reason for the position you took—especially since your position was opposed to one that had been supported with Scripture.</p>
<p>I also asked you to consider the context. I&#8217;ll ask you the same thing again, because the context shows just what it is that I regret about the end to which bin Laden has come, and also what I do not regret about it.</p>
<p>Is it a biblical position that any Christian who disagrees with that snippet of what I wrote is sinning? No. I did not represent it as such. I&#8217;ve answered your question now. I call on you to answer mine, rather than deflecting it as you have done.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18251</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 05:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a biblical position that any Christian who does not &quot;regret deeply the end to which Osama bin Laden has come&quot; as Tom Gilson does is sinning because Tom Gilson says so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a biblical position that any Christian who does not &#8220;regret deeply the end to which Osama bin Laden has come&#8221; as Tom Gilson does is sinning because Tom Gilson says so?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gilson</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18250</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 02:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that a biblical position you&#039;re taking there, TUAD? Note the context in which I wrote it, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a biblical position you&#8217;re taking there, TUAD? Note the context in which I wrote it, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/05/justice-satisfied/#comment-18249</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 01:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I regret deeply the end to which Osama bin Laden has come.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I have regrets, but this ain&#039;t one of &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I regret deeply the end to which Osama bin Laden has come.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I have regrets, but this ain&#8217;t one of &#8216;em.</p>
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