Comments on: Rob Bell With Martin Bashir: Called Out On Strikes http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/ A First Things Blog Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:35:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: iHisBeloved http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17675 iHisBeloved Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:57:00 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17675 Amazing, thank you Martin Bashir! I think we have a responsibility as Christians to stand up and fight this potentially Heretical campaign. There are many Christians who are to immature and new to the faith to even discern that which is false. Worse is the acceptance of half-truths that are totally parallel (warm and fuzzy) to the feel good "cant we all just get along" post-modernistic world we live in. I myself put it on you tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKM8aMiAboM watch! Amazing, thank you Martin Bashir! I think we have a responsibility as Christians to stand up and fight this potentially Heretical campaign. There are many Christians who are to immature and new to the faith to even discern that which is false. Worse is the acceptance of half-truths that are totally parallel (warm and fuzzy) to the feel good “cant we all just get along” post-modernistic world we live in. I myself put it on you tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKM8aMiAboM

watch!

]]> By: Christopher http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17625 Christopher Mon, 21 Mar 2011 01:18:23 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17625 "watered versions of Christianity which leave out all the darker elements and try to establish a religion of pure consolation" was how C.S. Lewis described such theologies in "Letters to Malcolm," chapter 14, adding, "No belief in the watered versions can last..." "I have met no people who fully disbelieved in Hell and also had a living and life-giving belief in Heaven.. "The soul that has once been waked, or stung, or uplifted by the desire of God, will inevitably (I think) awake to the fear of losing Him." “watered versions of Christianity which leave out all the darker elements and try to establish a religion of pure consolation” was how C.S. Lewis described such theologies in “Letters to Malcolm,” chapter 14, adding, “No belief in the watered versions can last…”

“I have met no people who fully disbelieved in Hell and also had a living and life-giving belief in Heaven..

“The soul that has once been waked, or stung, or uplifted by the desire of God, will inevitably (I think) awake to the fear of losing Him.”

]]> By: James http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17613 James Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:12:05 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17613 Many people would prefer Bell respond as Pastor John Piper did: "Therefore, God has a good and all-wise purpose for the heart-rending calamity in Japan on March 11, 2011 that appears to have cost tens of thousands of lives. Indeed, he has hundreds of thousands of purposes, most of which will remain hidden to us until we are able to grasp them at the end of the age." To paraphrase: "God intended this to happen for some good reason but I have no idea why and none of us will know until we die and (some of us) end up in Heaven." That would have been somehow "better"? Many people would prefer Bell respond as Pastor John Piper did:

“Therefore, God has a good and all-wise purpose for the heart-rending calamity in Japan on March 11, 2011 that appears to have cost tens of thousands of lives. Indeed, he has hundreds of thousands of purposes, most of which will remain hidden to us until we are able to grasp them at the end of the age.”

To paraphrase: “God intended this to happen for some good reason but I have no idea why and none of us will know until we die and (some of us) end up in Heaven.”

That would have been somehow “better”?

]]> By: pentamom http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17584 pentamom Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:38:42 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17584 I just now watched it -- only I couldn't bear it anymore when he explained that he determines which historic voices to listen to "because he's a pastor." That's not merely being pragmatic, that's determining the content of truth pragmatically. It's really not surprising that many people find this kind of thing attractive, but it's very sad. I just now watched it — only I couldn’t bear it anymore when he explained that he determines which historic voices to listen to “because he’s a pastor.” That’s not merely being pragmatic, that’s determining the content of truth pragmatically. It’s really not surprising that many people find this kind of thing attractive, but it’s very sad.

]]> By: Nikolai Volk http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17579 Nikolai Volk Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:31:30 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17579 Rob Bell is not a universalist. He said so. But......... Rob Bell is not a universalist. He said so.

But………

]]> By: Tom Gilson http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17574 Tom Gilson Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:03:18 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17574 Asked, yes. Bashir didn't just ask. Asked, yes. Bashir didn’t just ask.

]]> By: steve hays http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17571 steve hays Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:30:59 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17571 Actually, it's fairly predictable that a religious figure would be asked about the Japan disaster. Actually, it’s fairly predictable that a religious figure would be asked about the Japan disaster.

]]> By: pentamom http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17562 pentamom Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:53:30 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17562 Yeah, "before we get to your book, just real quick solve for me a question thinkers of all faiths have struggled with for thousands of years." (Paraphrase.) That was a bit much. But this was brilliant: "For my part, I refuse to enter into the debate over Love Wins before I’ve read it; that’s just being responsible. But Bell failed to enter into the debate after he wrote it. That’s being something else." Yeah, “before we get to your book, just real quick solve for me a question thinkers of all faiths have struggled with for thousands of years.” (Paraphrase.) That was a bit much.

But this was brilliant:

“For my part, I refuse to enter into the debate over Love Wins before I’ve read it; that’s just being responsible. But Bell failed to enter into the debate after he wrote it. That’s being something else.”

]]> By: Tom Gilson http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17559 Tom Gilson Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:11:15 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2011/03/rob-bell-with-martin-bashir-called-out-on-strikes/#comment-17559 As another footnote, I think Bashir's first question was out of context for a book interview, and for that reason it was unfair. From the admittedly unhurried comfort of my office I think Bell's best answer would have been, "That's a great question, very timely, and I would love to talk about it. It's going to take me a few minutes to do it justice. How much time do we have?" As another footnote, I think Bashir’s first question was out of context for a book interview, and for that reason it was unfair. From the admittedly unhurried comfort of my office I think Bell’s best answer would have been, “That’s a great question, very timely, and I would love to talk about it. It’s going to take me a few minutes to do it justice. How much time do we have?”

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