But it seems to me, that when you get into a logical bind, you refuse to engage further. That’s understandable.

Since you insist on not reading or misreading posts…

What I said was, that if you’re looking for a minimalist belief system for yourself, in order to be saved, there isn’t one.

If you’re hoping that God will save an imperfectly understanding sinner, he will.

Since you have so often refused to accept Scripture as an answer to anything (the Trinity for instance), I’ll pass on answering your question regarding a bible verse. It won’t matter to you anyways.

If you can seriously believe that there is any correlation between the Mormon Jesus and the real one, I can’t help you…

So, if you’re saying that one does not have to believe in the trinity, to be saved, then why are mormons, in your view, unsaved? They believe the bible. And they also believe that Jesus saves them.

You also state that Jesus saves the weak and lame. Well, why not save mormons, catholics, etc., as well? In your judgment, they certainly qualify as “weak and lame”.

Are you saying even Jesus has his limits, as to who he will save. He’ll save the weak and lame, but not if they’re THAT weak and lame?

With respect, I’m not “spreading false teaching”, I’m searching for the truth.

So you continue to do a couple things.

You pretend that anyone has said that someone must understand anything beyond “Repent and trust in Christ” to be saved.
And you continue to ignore the plain teaching of Scripture.

Who said someone must understand the Trinity?

The church, all branches, has always anathemetised those who deny the Trinity.

Paul is plain that to allow for any other means of salvation, including one that accepts Christ’s work and then adds to it, is to teach another gospel and thus be damned.

If you are asking:

But I don’t believe all that the Bible teaches. How much can I safely deny and still be saved.

If that’s the case, then the answer is, none of it.

If your question is:

What if I don’t believe quite right? Will Jesus still save me?

If that’s the case, then the answer is, don’t fear, Jesus saves the weak and the lame.

I too, respect anyone’s right to believe anything. And I respect anyone’s civil right to spread false teaching and call it the gospel.

But it still must be pointed out to be false. And it cannot be allowed to remain in the church.

You seem to be claiming that, not only must one believe in Jesus, and his saving grace, but also, one must get his ontological nature right.

But only partly right. You deny that it’s necessary for our understanding to be perfect, in order to be saved. But one must believe in Jesus, and believe he saves us, and believe in the trinity. Anything else? after all, I would hate for someone to believe all of these things, only to reach the pearly gates and be told, like those hapless mormons and catholics, sorry, close, but no cigar, there’s some other aspects of God that you must know.

And, really, now. Does anyone, really understand the trinity?

To your last sentence, because those groups clearly teach either another Jesus or another means by which he saves. So to believe in Jesus as told by either group is, by definition, to believe in another Christ.

To your first (and I though you might say that):

Father –
Romans 15:6 “so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

Son-

John 20:28 “Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Holy Spirit –

Ephesians 4:30 – And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

If you think that’s creative, then so be it. It’s no more creative than my little exercise in my family tree was.
But to deny it, is to place oneself outside the Christian faith.

Ok, Daryl, where?

At any rate, if merely believing in Jesus, and His savior traits, are enough to be saved, then why do you deny mormons, and catholics, heaven?

I don’t feel that at all.

I have heard Greg here and there. I have heard his friends, John Sanders & Clark Pinnock, rest his soul.
From all I heard, and from what I know, Open Theism says that God doesn’t know, for 100% sure, what the future will be like. Though He does know the “possibilities”. It could be all bad, or all good, or a mixture.

Perhaps Boyd is a little different than Sanders and Pinnock, I don’t know.
I admit I don’t know exactly what each teaches fully.

I would say to teach that God does not know exactly what the future will look like, according to His will, which is what I just heard Greg say on Youtube, is a false teaching. The teaching is heresy, because it is not with orthodoxy.

I have a good friend who is a full preterist. He is outside of orthodoxy, and yet he loves Christ, and we are still friends.
I believe I could be friends with Boyd. One of my best friends likes Greg, and visits his website a lot, as does my son-in-law.

“The future is not eternally settled but is partly open to possibilities by God’s will.” -Greg Boyd

The future is unknown, and yet God knows all things–that are “possible”, maybe even probable, but not actual, yet, and so God doesn’t know exactly what will happen.

Is that a fair statement of Greg Boyd’s teaching?

Of course the Trinity is mentioned in the bible.

Let me illustrate:

Lyle Ray Little lived in Blenheim Ontario
His oldest son was Duncan Lyle Little.
Duncan Lyle’s youngest son is Daryl Little.

Question: Did I just mention my Grandfather or did I not?

Of course I did. But, like the word Trinity, I did it without mentioning the word.

Again, though, you’ve asked the wrong question. All one needs to be saved, is to know that Jesus died fro my sins and if I repent and believe in Him, then I will be saved.

However, if, once I profess belief, I learn of the Trinity and refuse to believe it, then I cannot be saved. Because what I’ve done is demonstrate that I’ve never actually believed in Jesus, because without the Trinity, there is no real Jesus.
And a real believer will embrace the doctrine of the Trinity, as best they can, in submission to holy scripture. A non-believer will not be in submission to the text.

Must one believe in the Trinity? If so, how does this make sense to a Bible believing Christian, such as yourself, since the Trinity is no where mentioned in the bible?