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		<title>By: Sarah Flashing</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13380</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Flashing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, yep they certainly are a matter of concern. In my larger piece I acknowledge that she is a sister in the Lord and is clearly motivated by a love for God and that core doctrines aren&#039;t at issue. But that&#039;s not sufficient for the task before her. Methodology is hugely significant! I don&#039;t think her ability to speak overshadow the teachings of scripture, which seems to be the case. Personally, I&#039;d rather have Paul&#039;s quandary, having a knowledge of scripture while not being quite as eloquent as the super apostles. Thanks for the link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, yep they certainly are a matter of concern. In my larger piece I acknowledge that she is a sister in the Lord and is clearly motivated by a love for God and that core doctrines aren&#8217;t at issue. But that&#8217;s not sufficient for the task before her. Methodology is hugely significant! I don&#8217;t think her ability to speak overshadow the teachings of scripture, which seems to be the case. Personally, I&#8217;d rather have Paul&#8217;s quandary, having a knowledge of scripture while not being quite as eloquent as the super apostles. Thanks for the link!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13378</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this, Sarah. I know that Beth Moore is a sister in the Lord, but her hermenutics is worrying.  When you see the Scriptures as being about you and how to solve your &quot;issues&quot; instead of about Christ and redeeming a people for Himself, you open yourself up to all sorts of problems.  Beth Moore needs to be challenged about her approach for the sake of herself and the women she is ministering to. Tim Keller has an excellent spot on youtube on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNa6tLWrqk&amp;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this, Sarah. I know that Beth Moore is a sister in the Lord, but her hermenutics is worrying.  When you see the Scriptures as being about you and how to solve your &#8220;issues&#8221; instead of about Christ and redeeming a people for Himself, you open yourself up to all sorts of problems.  Beth Moore needs to be challenged about her approach for the sake of herself and the women she is ministering to. Tim Keller has an excellent spot on youtube on the subject: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNa6tLWrqk&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNa6tLWrqk&#038;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Flashing</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13373</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Flashing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wonderingoutloud, i believe that Kay Arthur is sound. Nancy DeMoss is ok but she&#039;s been taken to task for adding to scripture....there&#039;s some other things going on there too. Anne Lotz? I honestly have not read enough of her, but what I&#039;ve heard from her at conferences has been very weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonderingoutloud, i believe that Kay Arthur is sound. Nancy DeMoss is ok but she&#8217;s been taken to task for adding to scripture&#8230;.there&#8217;s some other things going on there too. Anne Lotz? I honestly have not read enough of her, but what I&#8217;ve heard from her at conferences has been very weak.</p>
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		<title>By: wonderingoutloud</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13372</link>
		<dc:creator>wonderingoutloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Merlin - at the beginning of the posts, what do the readers here think about Bible teachers like Nancy DeMoss, Kay Arthur, or Anne Lotz?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Merlin &#8211; at the beginning of the posts, what do the readers here think about Bible teachers like Nancy DeMoss, Kay Arthur, or Anne Lotz?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah J. Flashing</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13352</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah J. Flashing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, thanks for making that clarification. There are so many questions when it comes not only to Beth&#039;s hermeneutic, but her mission as well. Just because hordes of women say they&#039;re insecure doesn&#039;t necessitate they need her prescription for healing. The problem and the solution might be something entirely other.

Jules, I&#039;ve been biting my tongue for many years. I hope you keep coming back to evangel and my website, www.womenfaithculture.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, thanks for making that clarification. There are so many questions when it comes not only to Beth&#8217;s hermeneutic, but her mission as well. Just because hordes of women say they&#8217;re insecure doesn&#8217;t necessitate they need her prescription for healing. The problem and the solution might be something entirely other.</p>
<p>Jules, I&#8217;ve been biting my tongue for many years. I hope you keep coming back to evangel and my website, <a href="http://www.womenfaithculture.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.womenfaithculture.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13350</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If this is true, no matter how Moore arrived at her conclusion, this does not license Moore to handle Scripture the way she does.

In fact, if many women need help in their struggle with insecurity I would think misusing Scripture would more hurt than help.&quot;

Not only that, but when I attend a video-based study on the Psalms and all I hear about is how it&#039;s going to help my insecurity, it&#039;s depriving me of learning what the Psalms in question &lt;i&gt;are really about.&lt;/i&gt; So it fails to help in the way it&#039;s purported to, and it fails to really use the scriptures constructively.

And then there&#039;s the whole question of what happens to people whose need isn&#039;t to have the &quot;insecurity&quot; dealt with, but other things, but are mistakenly lead to believe that their problem is &quot;insecurity,&quot; since she sees it in every passage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If this is true, no matter how Moore arrived at her conclusion, this does not license Moore to handle Scripture the way she does.</p>
<p>In fact, if many women need help in their struggle with insecurity I would think misusing Scripture would more hurt than help.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not only that, but when I attend a video-based study on the Psalms and all I hear about is how it&#8217;s going to help my insecurity, it&#8217;s depriving me of learning what the Psalms in question <i>are really about.</i> So it fails to help in the way it&#8217;s purported to, and it fails to really use the scriptures constructively.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the whole question of what happens to people whose need isn&#8217;t to have the &#8220;insecurity&#8221; dealt with, but other things, but are mistakenly lead to believe that their problem is &#8220;insecurity,&#8221; since she sees it in every passage.</p>
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		<title>By: Readables&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13348</link>
		<dc:creator>Readables&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but I think that Sarah Flashing has begun to address something that needs to be addressed&#8230;the teachings of Beth Moore.  I have long been concerned by the almost slavish devotion of some Christian women to this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but I think that Sarah Flashing has begun to address something that needs to be addressed&#8230;the teachings of Beth Moore.  I have long been concerned by the almost slavish devotion of some Christian women to this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jules @ Everyday Mommy</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13346</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules @ Everyday Mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a brave soul, Sarah. Will the Moore legions show up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a brave soul, Sarah. Will the Moore legions show up?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13345</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, 

Good observations on Moore&#039;s hermeneutic. 

There is a larger point that is coming to light here in fangirl&#039;s comments. You (Sarah) are examining how Moore is using Scripture. Fangirl, as I read her, is focusing on the issue that Moore is addressing. These are two different things.

Let&#039;s accept that &quot;many, many women struggle with the issue of feeling deep insecurity.&quot; If this is true, no matter how Moore arrived at her conclusion, this does not license Moore to handle Scripture the way she does.

In fact, if many women need help in their struggle with insecurity I would think misusing Scripture would more hurt than help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, </p>
<p>Good observations on Moore&#8217;s hermeneutic. </p>
<p>There is a larger point that is coming to light here in fangirl&#8217;s comments. You (Sarah) are examining how Moore is using Scripture. Fangirl, as I read her, is focusing on the issue that Moore is addressing. These are two different things.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s accept that &#8220;many, many women struggle with the issue of feeling deep insecurity.&#8221; If this is true, no matter how Moore arrived at her conclusion, this does not license Moore to handle Scripture the way she does.</p>
<p>In fact, if many women need help in their struggle with insecurity I would think misusing Scripture would more hurt than help.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Favorites &#124; August 27 &#124; 2010</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13342</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Favorites &#124; August 27 &#124; 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More on Beth Moore - Sarah carefully analyzes a few how Beth Moore handles Scripture with a few examples. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] More on Beth Moore &#8211; Sarah carefully analyzes a few how Beth Moore handles Scripture with a few examples. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Does Beth Moore have the Apostle Paul right? &#171; From My Heart, Out Of My Mind</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13336</link>
		<dc:creator>Does Beth Moore have the Apostle Paul right? &#171; From My Heart, Out Of My Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Don Bryant on August 27, 2010  Click here for an analysis of Moore&#8217;s psychological analysis of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Don Bryant on August 27, 2010  Click here for an analysis of Moore&#8217;s psychological analysis of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Flashing</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13332</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Flashing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristine, that&#039;s exactly what happens over and over with so many including myself. But it got so bad I almost bit my tongue off in her fruit of the spirit study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine, that&#8217;s exactly what happens over and over with so many including myself. But it got so bad I almost bit my tongue off in her fruit of the spirit study.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13331</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>((It’s not a surprise that so many women are drawn to Beth Moore, but it is disappointing and frustrating.))

Rachel:

Thanks so much for your insightful comments.  I&#039;ve long had similar sentiments regarding Beth Moore and her mega-popular books.  Whenever an appropriate occasion arises for comment, people look at me like I just flew in from Mars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>((It’s not a surprise that so many women are drawn to Beth Moore, but it is disappointing and frustrating.))</p>
<p>Rachel:</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your insightful comments.  I&#8217;ve long had similar sentiments regarding Beth Moore and her mega-popular books.  Whenever an appropriate occasion arises for comment, people look at me like I just flew in from Mars.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Coffey</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13327</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Coffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments were excellent! Moore represents what is dominant in evangelical teaching today, a warm, personal and engaging delivery (watch her eyes when she speaks), and an emotional and therapeutic reading of Scripture, apart from a redemptive-historical perspective. Her misreading of Paul is not just a blimp on the screen but reflects the hermeneutics of many, including Charles Stanley. These type exegete their experience rather than the text and read the text in light of their experience as confirmation of what they feel. I look forward to the extended article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments were excellent! Moore represents what is dominant in evangelical teaching today, a warm, personal and engaging delivery (watch her eyes when she speaks), and an emotional and therapeutic reading of Scripture, apart from a redemptive-historical perspective. Her misreading of Paul is not just a blimp on the screen but reflects the hermeneutics of many, including Charles Stanley. These type exegete their experience rather than the text and read the text in light of their experience as confirmation of what they feel. I look forward to the extended article.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael Starke</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/08/more-on-beth-moore/#comment-13310</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael Starke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to Elyse Fitzpatrick, can I offer up Paul Tripp&#039;s name as an option? His books are theologically rich, and personally engaging and written simply without being simplistic. A couple of great examples would be Quest for More and Broken Down House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to Elyse Fitzpatrick, can I offer up Paul Tripp&#8217;s name as an option? His books are theologically rich, and personally engaging and written simply without being simplistic. A couple of great examples would be Quest for More and Broken Down House.</p>
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