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	<title>Comments on: Wilberforce and Discipleship of the Mind</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/05/wilberforce-and-discipleship-of-the-mind/#comment-10894</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 23:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;And why, it may be asked, are we in this &gt;pursuit alone to expect knowledge without &gt;inquiry, and success without endeavour?

That looks like hard work.... can&#039;t we just watch Lost reruns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;And why, it may be asked, are we in this &gt;pursuit alone to expect knowledge without &gt;inquiry, and success without endeavour?</p>
<p>That looks like hard work&#8230;. can&#8217;t we just watch Lost reruns?</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/05/wilberforce-and-discipleship-of-the-mind/#comment-10866</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 00:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course.  Just moving from the generalized exhortation to one particular concrete example which exemplifies the generalized exhortation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course.  Just moving from the generalized exhortation to one particular concrete example which exemplifies the generalized exhortation.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gilson</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/05/wilberforce-and-discipleship-of-the-mind/#comment-10865</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is bigger than the Manhattan Declaration, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is bigger than the Manhattan Declaration, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/05/wilberforce-and-discipleship-of-the-mind/#comment-10864</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 21:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As an example for Christians who seek profound impact on their culture, few leaders equal William Wilberforce (1759-1833).&quot;

Aren&#039;t the signers and supporters of the Manhattan Declaration seeking to have a significant impact on their culture?

Sound doctrinal beliefs regarding the sanctity of life, biblical marriage, and religious expression and the firm expression of them through the Manhattan Declaration seems to be the right tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As an example for Christians who seek profound impact on their culture, few leaders equal William Wilberforce (1759-1833).&#8221;</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t the signers and supporters of the Manhattan Declaration seeking to have a significant impact on their culture?</p>
<p>Sound doctrinal beliefs regarding the sanctity of life, biblical marriage, and religious expression and the firm expression of them through the Manhattan Declaration seems to be the right tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/05/wilberforce-and-discipleship-of-the-mind/#comment-10863</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 20:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth Unites... and Divides,

Um, what&#039;s the deal with this Manhattan Declaration obsession?  Especially in relation to the topic of this post on Wilberforce, emphasizing such a Declaration within churches that are decreasingly emphasizing doctrine seems to be the wrong tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth Unites&#8230; and Divides,</p>
<p>Um, what&#8217;s the deal with this Manhattan Declaration obsession?  Especially in relation to the topic of this post on Wilberforce, emphasizing such a Declaration within churches that are decreasingly emphasizing doctrine seems to be the wrong tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/05/wilberforce-and-discipleship-of-the-mind/#comment-10858</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 20:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Eric Metaxas makes a similar point in interviews surrounding the Amazing Grace movie release. Christians affect the culture by pouring ourselves into the discipleship of the mind and engaging and persuading the “elites” of our culture.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yes.  Quite so.  I was specifically thinking of Eric Metaxas in my prior comment and his article in the most recent issue of &lt;i&gt;The City&lt;/i&gt; about Wilberforce and the Clapham Circle.

Wilberforce, discipleship of the mind, engaging and persuading &quot;the elites of our culture&quot; ...

all demonstrated by a good number of intellectually-disciplined Christians supporting and signing the Manhattan Declaration to engage and persuade the cultural elites about the sanctity of life, biblical marriage, and religious liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Eric Metaxas makes a similar point in interviews surrounding the Amazing Grace movie release. Christians affect the culture by pouring ourselves into the discipleship of the mind and engaging and persuading the “elites” of our culture.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes.  Quite so.  I was specifically thinking of Eric Metaxas in my prior comment and his article in the most recent issue of <i>The City</i> about Wilberforce and the Clapham Circle.</p>
<p>Wilberforce, discipleship of the mind, engaging and persuading &#8220;the elites of our culture&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>all demonstrated by a good number of intellectually-disciplined Christians supporting and signing the Manhattan Declaration to engage and persuade the cultural elites about the sanctity of life, biblical marriage, and religious liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Billingsley</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/05/wilberforce-and-discipleship-of-the-mind/#comment-10852</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Billingsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 19:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tremendous.

Eric Metaxas makes a similar point in interviews surrounding the Amazing Grace movie release.  Christians affect the culture by pouring ourselves into the discipleship of the mind and engaging and persuading the &quot;elites&quot; of our culture.  We must engage and defeat the prevalent lies within our culture on their own ground.  This takes seriousness of purpose and the discipline to persevere and not give ground.  It also takes a winsome and genuine love for the people who oppose us. 

If we needed any reminder of what an extraordinary figure Wilberforce was, this is a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tremendous.</p>
<p>Eric Metaxas makes a similar point in interviews surrounding the Amazing Grace movie release.  Christians affect the culture by pouring ourselves into the discipleship of the mind and engaging and persuading the &#8220;elites&#8221; of our culture.  We must engage and defeat the prevalent lies within our culture on their own ground.  This takes seriousness of purpose and the discipline to persevere and not give ground.  It also takes a winsome and genuine love for the people who oppose us. </p>
<p>If we needed any reminder of what an extraordinary figure Wilberforce was, this is a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/05/wilberforce-and-discipleship-of-the-mind/#comment-10847</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 19:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilberforce and the Clapham Circle demonstrate a wonderful way for Christians to engage a fallen culture and society.

He would have heartily approved and supported the Manhattan Declaration.

Here&#039;s Peter Lilback, President of Westminster Theological Seminary, exhorting folks to sign the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=121317327900208&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Manhattan Declaration&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilberforce and the Clapham Circle demonstrate a wonderful way for Christians to engage a fallen culture and society.</p>
<p>He would have heartily approved and supported the Manhattan Declaration.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Peter Lilback, President of Westminster Theological Seminary, exhorting folks to sign the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=121317327900208" rel="nofollow">Manhattan Declaration</a>.</p>
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