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		<title>By: In Which I Kill the &#8216;Ten Books&#8217; Meme &#187; Evangel &#124; A First Things Blog</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8614</link>
		<dc:creator>In Which I Kill the &#8216;Ten Books&#8217; Meme &#187; Evangel &#124; A First Things Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In case you missed it, folks have been listing the ten books that either influenced them, they liked the most, or are best in their category (like Dr. Sanders&#8217; theology list). [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The &#8216;Ten Books&#8217; Meme Jumps the Shark &#124; Mere Orthodoxy</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8556</link>
		<dc:creator>The &#8216;Ten Books&#8217; Meme Jumps the Shark &#124; Mere Orthodoxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In case you missed it, folks have been listing the ten books that either influenced them, they liked the most, or are best in their category (like Dr. Sanders&#8217; theology list). [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David T. Koyzis</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8401</link>
		<dc:creator>David T. Koyzis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur with Fred&#039;s assessment of the 16th- and 17th-century confessions and catechisms. He is right as well about the 52 Lord&#039;s Days into which the Heidelberg is divided. In the Dutch tradition the afternoon service is a teaching service organized around the Catechism. Hence the 52 chapters in DeYoung&#039;s (originally De Jong surely?) book.

As for the hard edges of the Heidelberg, there is the notorious &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crcna.org/pages/heidelberg_communion.cfm#QandA%2080&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;question and answer 80&lt;/a&gt;, which calls the &quot;popish mass&quot; an &quot;accursed idolatry.&quot; (I think the Christian Reformed Church has bracketed this phrase or put it in a footnote.)

I am surprised that Moody Publishers (I assume this is the same as the old Moody Press) would publish something on the Heidelberg, given the dispensational orientation of Moody Bible Institute. My parents attended MBI nearly six decades ago. Perhaps it&#039;s moved towards the magisterial Reformation since then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with Fred&#8217;s assessment of the 16th- and 17th-century confessions and catechisms. He is right as well about the 52 Lord&#8217;s Days into which the Heidelberg is divided. In the Dutch tradition the afternoon service is a teaching service organized around the Catechism. Hence the 52 chapters in DeYoung&#8217;s (originally De Jong surely?) book.</p>
<p>As for the hard edges of the Heidelberg, there is the notorious <a href="http://www.crcna.org/pages/heidelberg_communion.cfm#QandA%2080" rel="nofollow">question and answer 80</a>, which calls the &#8220;popish mass&#8221; an &#8220;accursed idolatry.&#8221; (I think the Christian Reformed Church has bracketed this phrase or put it in a footnote.)</p>
<p>I am surprised that Moody Publishers (I assume this is the same as the old Moody Press) would publish something on the Heidelberg, given the dispensational orientation of Moody Bible Institute. My parents attended MBI nearly six decades ago. Perhaps it&#8217;s moved towards the magisterial Reformation since then?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Sanders</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8400</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher,

The most obvious contrast is that Heidelberg&#039;s intentionally irenic (toward the Lutherans), whereas Dort is intentionally polemical (against the Arminians). Westminster&#039;s more scholastic and objective, whereas Heidelberg is all about application. I don&#039;t know the Belgic well enough to make any generalizations. The general rule is that the Heidelberg Catechism stands out among the Reformed confessions as especially sweet, pastoral, practical, and affective. Not to say it goes light on the hard edges of doctrine!

There have been interesting schools of interpretation of the Heidelberg Catechism. It was considered a crucial text by Karl Barth and by the Mercersburg theology, but for nearly opposite reasons. And the Dutch Reformed have organized the entire preaching and teaching year around it.

Thanks for the DeYoung book promo; it&#039;ll be good to have a good introductory recommendation of the Heidelberg in print. 

Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher,</p>
<p>The most obvious contrast is that Heidelberg&#8217;s intentionally irenic (toward the Lutherans), whereas Dort is intentionally polemical (against the Arminians). Westminster&#8217;s more scholastic and objective, whereas Heidelberg is all about application. I don&#8217;t know the Belgic well enough to make any generalizations. The general rule is that the Heidelberg Catechism stands out among the Reformed confessions as especially sweet, pastoral, practical, and affective. Not to say it goes light on the hard edges of doctrine!</p>
<p>There have been interesting schools of interpretation of the Heidelberg Catechism. It was considered a crucial text by Karl Barth and by the Mercersburg theology, but for nearly opposite reasons. And the Dutch Reformed have organized the entire preaching and teaching year around it.</p>
<p>Thanks for the DeYoung book promo; it&#8217;ll be good to have a good introductory recommendation of the Heidelberg in print. </p>
<p>Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Sanders</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8395</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rev. Paul,
Come on, Ursinus was playing as nice as he could with the Lutherans. It was in Germany, after all. Only one or two questions drew anything like a dividing line within the house of the Reformation. But point taken. Luther&#039;s Small Catechism is a good contender for the catechism prize.
Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rev. Paul,<br />
Come on, Ursinus was playing as nice as he could with the Lutherans. It was in Germany, after all. Only one or two questions drew anything like a dividing line within the house of the Reformation. But point taken. Luther&#8217;s Small Catechism is a good contender for the catechism prize.<br />
Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Paul T. McCain</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8394</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. Paul T. McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 03:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem, correction please: The 16-century &lt;em&gt;Calvinist&lt;/em&gt; Confessions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem, correction please: The 16-century <em>Calvinist</em> Confessions.</p>
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		<title>By: David T. Koyzis</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8392</link>
		<dc:creator>David T. Koyzis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, I am definitely with you on the Heidelberg Catechism. It&#039;s easily the jewel of the 16th-century confessions, and I can&#039;t imagine anyone finding it cold and heartless. The first Q and A alone are worth the price of the whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, I am definitely with you on the Heidelberg Catechism. It&#8217;s easily the jewel of the 16th-century confessions, and I can&#8217;t imagine anyone finding it cold and heartless. The first Q and A alone are worth the price of the whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian News New Zealand &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Top Ten Books, Fred’s Theology Edition</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8390</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian News New Zealand &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Top Ten Books, Fred’s Theology Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Top Ten Books, Fred’s Theology Edition &#124; iamjonnyking.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top Ten Books, Fred’s Theology Edition &#124; iamjonnyking.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nano-Blog link here: http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#more-5374 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Craig Payne</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8387</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your first pick (Ephesians) tied in with a thought I&#039;d had:  How about a listing next week or sometime of everyone&#039;s single favorite Bible book and why?

I might throw in something like Sirach just to stir things up.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first pick (Ephesians) tied in with a thought I&#8217;d had:  How about a listing next week or sometime of everyone&#8217;s single favorite Bible book and why?</p>
<p>I might throw in something like Sirach just to stir things up.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: My Favorite Theology Books &#124; The Scriptorium Daily: Middlebrow</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2010/03/top-ten-books-freds-theology-edition/#comment-8386</link>
		<dc:creator>My Favorite Theology Books &#124; The Scriptorium Daily: Middlebrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the bloggers at First Things&#8217; Evangel blog made it look so fun that I decided to participate. Here is my contribution. Comments are turned on over there, in case you are interested in joining the [...]</description>
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