And then there is Family Radio Worldwide. I don’t know any more about these folks than their web site. But it is disturbing that they will end up doing lots of damage to people’s lives, Christian or otherwise, in this while process.
Despite the Lord’s specific that no man knows the day or the hour, these people have gained a special insight into the mind of God. They provide the year based on the year of the flood.
Seven thousand years after 4990 B.C. (the year of the Flood) is the year 2011 A.D. (our calendar).
4990 + 2011 – 1 = 7,000
[One year must be subtracted in going from an Old Testament B.C. calendar date to a New Testament A.D. calendar date because the calendar does not have a year zero.]
Given that the flood is here dated to 4990 BC, it appears that they are not 6K YECers. That would put them off by almost a thousand years.
But wait … there’s more. There is absolute proof to be had!
Thus Holy God is showing us by the words of 2 Peter 3:8 that He wants us to know that exactly 7,000 years after He destroyed the world with water in Noah’s day, He plans to destroy the entire world forever. Because the year 2011 A.D. is exactly 7,000 years after 4990 B.C. when the flood began, the Bible has given us absolute proof that the year 2011 is the end of the world during the Day of Judgment, which will come on the last day of the Day of Judgment.
Amazingly, May 21, 2011 is the 17th day of the 2nd month of the Biblical calendar of our day. Remember, the flood waters also began on the 17th day of the 2nd month, in the year 4990 B.C.
It’s one thing when we disagree on the millennium exegesis, vis a vis amill, postmill, & disp. It is quite another thing to read plainly unbiblical (or might we say contra-Biblical?) material that presumes upon God. No this doesn’t rank up there with a distortion of grace or the grace-law relationship. But it does indicate a serious character flaw when a teacher is willing to ignore a variety of scriptures in order to make a point.
FWIW, I draw the line between error and heresy at this point: An error may be remediated; a heresy can not. This type of date-setting cannot be corrected by modification but only by removal.
Some of the most destructive deception may be within our own camp.
h/t: Jason Kuznicki
March 3rd, 2010 | 3:35 pm | #1
Are these the guys who say that the era of the Church is over and that no one should go to church any more?
March 3rd, 2010 | 3:47 pm | #2
Pastor Spomer,
According to Jason Kuznicki’s post, yes. I’m not sure whether they object to coffee hour, or just the service itself. ;)
March 3rd, 2010 | 4:56 pm | #3
Well, I suppose the good news is that, on 22 May next year, their credibility will be at absolute zero with everyone, even their erstwhile followers. History has a way of correcting at least some errors, and perhaps even outright heresies on occasion.
March 3rd, 2010 | 5:03 pm | #4
David:
You assume too much regarding the followers of false prophets. The Watchtower has been wrong about the end of the world repeatedly in its 150-year history, and they are still evangelizing.
If only false prophecy was enough to dissuade people from false religion.
March 3rd, 2010 | 5:24 pm | #5
And let’s not forget Mormonism, built on a novel, and having doctrines (though now rejected) which were never to end, written in a non-existent language. And an epistemology that evades all reality. Quite the track record.
March 3rd, 2010 | 6:33 pm | #6
And lets also not forget the this isn’t Mr. Camping’s first kick at this cat either.
His followers didn’t seem to mind that he was wrong the first time…it’s unlikely that number 2 will faze them either.
March 4th, 2010 | 9:28 am | #7
Ever hear of the “Millerites”? Do you know who they are now?
March 4th, 2010 | 2:57 pm | #8
Ditto to Daryl. I think he predicted a date in 1994 if I am not mistaken. I remember that this is when Alan Colmes was just on the radio and he had some fun with Camping over that whole thing. I think he even had him on the radio either the day before or the day of the prediction. That failure apparently didn’t phase him at all.
And yep on the church age thing too – I think he must have announced the end of the church age around ’01 or ’02. I was pastoring a church in FL at the time and we lost a family due to that.
Sadly, he’s an amil – we amils have been having fun picking at the dispensational premil folks for years now on their date setting whackos – I guess this is God’s way of humbling us – giving us a whacko of our own. All I can say on behalf of my fellow amils is that we tried to shut him up in the basement, but someone keeps forgetting to lock the door.
March 5th, 2010 | 10:49 am | #9
Do the evangelical bloggers here have somewhat unified eschatological views? Or not? Specifically, for the most part do the bloggers here (a) accept (b) reject, or (c) don’t know, regarding the Rapture-oriented teachings?
What are your thoughts?
March 5th, 2010 | 11:12 am | #10
“Do the evangelical bloggers here have somewhat unified eschatological views? Or not?”
Most likely not.
BTW, does the Roman Catholic Magisterium provide a magisterial interpretation of the various eschatological passages in the Bible for Roman Catholics to follow and obey?
March 5th, 2010 | 11:30 am | #11
I reject the idea of a pre-mil rapture. I do not reject those who embrace that sort of thing — it’s utterly irrelevant to the message of the Gospel.
March 5th, 2010 | 11:52 am | #12
I’m a pan-millennialist. I believe that for those who are in Christ, everything will pan out in the end.
On a more serious note: Here is the classic/first evangelical position on end times:
Article XVII: Of Christ’s Return to Judgment.
At the consummation of the world, Christ will appear for judgment, and will raise up all the dead; He will give to the godly and elect eternal life and everlasting joys, but ungodly men and the devils He will condemn to be tormented without end. They condemn the Anabaptists, who think that there will be an end to the punishments of condemned men and devils. They condemn also others who are now spreading certain Jewish opinions, that before the resurrection of the dead the godly shall take possession of the kingdom of the world, the ungodly being everywhere suppressed.
March 13th, 2010 | 11:41 am | #13
Where are they getting the number 7000 from? That seems pulled out of nowhere (not that it’s the only thing here that is).
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