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    Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 12:11 PM

    One thing critics of ancient cultures often miss is how easy “freedom” and “liberty” were to achieve in the ancient world and how hard order was to maintain.

    One could curse the king easily in the ancient world with almost no chance the king would ever hear of it! Any society was just a few bad harvests from chaos.

    Ancient cultures tended to develop rules, for good reasons, that emphasized justice and good order, because in those times order was harder to maintain.

    Technology helped the central power . . . and has made order easier to maintain. I would argue it has made it too easy! As a result modern thinkers began to emphasize keeping the central government out of our lives. The king could do things in a modern context that ancient kings could do in theory . . . but never in practice!

    So one reason “liberty” is less emphasized in any ancient text is that “order” was often a bigger priority . . . and harder to abuse.

    3 Comments

      Mary
      March 10th, 2010 | 1:26 pm | #1

      Not just a modern novelty.

      Therefore all the elders of Israel came in a body to Samuel at Ramah
      and said to him, “Now that you are old, and your sons do not follow your example, appoint a king over us, as other nations have, to judge us.”
      Samuel was displeased when they asked for a king to judge them. He prayed to the LORD, however,
      who said in answer: “Grant the people’s every request. It is not you they reject, they are rejecting me as their king.
      As they have treated me constantly from the day I brought them up from Egypt to this day, deserting me and worshiping strange gods, so do they treat you too.
      Now grant their request; but at the same time, warn them solemnly and inform them of the rights of the king who will rule them.”
      Samuel delivered the message of the LORD in full to those who were asking him for a king.
      He told them: “The rights of the king who will rule you will be as follows: He will take your sons and assign them to his chariots and horses, and they will run before his chariot.
      He will also appoint from among them his commanders of groups of a thousand and of a hundred soldiers. He will set them to do his plowing and his harvesting, and to make his implements of war and the equipment of his chariots.
      He will use your daughters as ointment-makers, as cooks, and as bakers.
      He will take the best of your fields, vineyards, and olive groves, and give them to his officials.
      He will tithe your crops and your vineyards, and give the revenue to his eunuchs and his slaves.
      He will take your male and female servants, as well as your best oxen and your asses, and use them to do his work.
      He will tithe your flocks and you yourselves will become his slaves.
      When this takes place, you will complain against the king whom you have chosen, but on that day the LORD will not answer you.”
      The people, however, refused to listen to Samuel’s warning and said, “Not so! There must be a king over us.
      We too must be like other nations, with a king to rule us and to lead us in warfare and fight our battles.”
      When Samuel had listened to all the people had to say, he repeated it to the LORD,
      who then said to him, “Grant their request and appoint a king to rule them.” Samuel thereupon said to the men of Israel, “Each of you go to his own city.”

      David T. Koyzis
      March 10th, 2010 | 8:40 pm | #2

      Agreed this time, John Mark. Philip Jenkins notes in his Lost History of Christianity that, within the muslim world, those christian peoples living in less accessible mountain regions, e.g., Mount Lebanon and Montenegro, were relatively untouched by the Ottoman Sultan’s policies vis-à-vis religious minorities. Thus pressures to convert to Islam to escape harsh taxation were less felt in these places. Christian communities survived because they were largely shielded from the central government’s power. There certainly is a down side to our modern centralized states, which is one reason why federalism is such a good idea.

      We all recall the rabbi’s response in Fiddler on the Roof when asked about a proper blessing for the tsar: “May God bless and keep the tsar . . . far away from us!”

      John Mark Reynolds
      March 11th, 2010 | 1:18 am | #3

      David,

      We could not agree more.

      John Mark

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