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Frank Turk suggested the Roman model for government . . . and there is much to be said in favor of Rome.  With the Founding Fathers of this Republic, true patriots should model our governance more on Cicero or the Republic than on Nero or the Empire!

Here is Cicero on torture:



Cicero on torture:
“Our prosecutor threatens us with the examinations and torture of our slaves; and though we do not suspect that any danger can arise to us from them, yet pain reigns in those tortures; much depends on the nature of every one’s mind, and the fortitude of a person’s body. The inquisitor manages everything; caprice regulates much, hope corrupts them, fear disables them, so that, in the straits in which they are placed, there is but little room left for truth.

Is the life of Publius Sulla, then, to be put to the torture? is it to be examined to see what lust is concealed beneath it? whether any crime is lurking under it, or any cruelty, or any audacity? There will be no mistake in our cause, O judges, no obscurity, if the voice of his whole life, which ought to be of the very greatest weight, is listened to by you.”

It would be a great pity if the followers of Jesus (tortured by bad Romans) would be less civilized in government than the best of the Romans.

Of course, Christian morality cannot be separated from any part of life . . . Cicero might have allowed for crucifixion as a just punishment, but what Christian would crucify a terrorist to get information or to inflict punishment?

We are better than that.


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