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	<title>Comments on: You Shouldn&#8217;t Have Been Born, Caleb Jones</title>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/you-shouldnt-have-been-born-caleb-jones/#comment-4019</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article.  When I got the results of a pregnancy test 20 years ago, this is what I was told by the nurse: &quot;Your test was positive. Do you plan to terminate?&quot;  It took my breath away.  Like Jessica, my baby was developing normally, but it was a high risk pregnancy. It hadn&#039;t occurred to me that the slope was this slippery,until I read Jessica&#039;s comment. So add &quot;high risk pregnancy&quot; to the list of undesirables in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article.  When I got the results of a pregnancy test 20 years ago, this is what I was told by the nurse: &#8220;Your test was positive. Do you plan to terminate?&#8221;  It took my breath away.  Like Jessica, my baby was developing normally, but it was a high risk pregnancy. It hadn&#8217;t occurred to me that the slope was this slippery,until I read Jessica&#8217;s comment. So add &#8220;high risk pregnancy&#8221; to the list of undesirables in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter has cystic fibrosis. I&#039;ll try to keep my comments Christian-like, but I&#039;ll just say that someone needs a punch square in the jaw bone! If you need some assistance, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter has cystic fibrosis. I&#8217;ll try to keep my comments Christian-like, but I&#8217;ll just say that someone needs a punch square in the jaw bone! If you need some assistance, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lolita Hanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lolita Hanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great article. Death is not a solution to any problem. It is being presented (via public schools/media) to young children and accepted by those who are older and should know better. The problems of &quot;poor&quot; genetics, inconvenient pregnancy, and suffering from an illness can be solved with death, so simple, so easy. So very immoral

Death comes for us all, we cannot escape it, but when it becomes a solution for societal ills, woes or difficulties, there is no end to the &quot;problems&quot; that it can &quot;cure.&quot; Look at the problem of murder suicide this has come about from an acceptance that suicide can fix personal problems.

It is much harder to help those who are suffering or find themselves in difficult circumstances because it requires us to give up our own selfish desires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great article. Death is not a solution to any problem. It is being presented (via public schools/media) to young children and accepted by those who are older and should know better. The problems of &#8220;poor&#8221; genetics, inconvenient pregnancy, and suffering from an illness can be solved with death, so simple, so easy. So very immoral</p>
<p>Death comes for us all, we cannot escape it, but when it becomes a solution for societal ills, woes or difficulties, there is no end to the &#8220;problems&#8221; that it can &#8220;cure.&#8221; Look at the problem of murder suicide this has come about from an acceptance that suicide can fix personal problems.</p>
<p>It is much harder to help those who are suffering or find themselves in difficult circumstances because it requires us to give up our own selfish desires.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a believer in the consistent life ethic (womb to grave pacifism, more or less), I am encouraged to see someone taking a stand like this. Life is more than &quot;convenience,&quot; &quot;success,&quot; and &quot;progress.&quot; These three are Mammon&#039;s unholy trinity.

Life is sacred. It is to be revered, loved, and encouraged. I must ask: what throughout time was the average lifespan? In many times and places, living past 35 wasn&#039;t &quot;expected.&quot;

Let&#039;s not play gardener with those whom God makes, making our own choices as to what is a weed and what is a flower. May God bless and keep you, Caleb. I pray for your dignity and fulfillment in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a believer in the consistent life ethic (womb to grave pacifism, more or less), I am encouraged to see someone taking a stand like this. Life is more than &#8220;convenience,&#8221; &#8220;success,&#8221; and &#8220;progress.&#8221; These three are Mammon&#8217;s unholy trinity.</p>
<p>Life is sacred. It is to be revered, loved, and encouraged. I must ask: what throughout time was the average lifespan? In many times and places, living past 35 wasn&#8217;t &#8220;expected.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not play gardener with those whom God makes, making our own choices as to what is a weed and what is a flower. May God bless and keep you, Caleb. I pray for your dignity and fulfillment in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Butterfield</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/you-shouldnt-have-been-born-caleb-jones/#comment-3925</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Butterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment/Thank Caleb for his Facebook note here:

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		<title>By: Jessica Snell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Snell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caleb, thank you for writing this. As a mother who was - oh so subtly, a mere &quot;you do want to continue this pregnancy, don&#039;t you?&quot; - offered abortion for two of my children, children dearer than my own life, this really resonates with me.  

In my case, it wasn&#039;t even a permanent condition that made the MFM offer it, just a very high-risk pregnancy. I&#039;m not sure that makes it worse, but it seems like the slope is getting slipperier; it seems like the current philosophy is that anything less than ideal is to be avoided, rather than undertaken with a good heart.

Especially powerful was your point than none of the children with DS who were aborted were cured. What is presented as a cure is actually its opposite. It&#039;s a very powerful point and I appreciate your making it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caleb, thank you for writing this. As a mother who was &#8211; oh so subtly, a mere &#8220;you do want to continue this pregnancy, don&#8217;t you?&#8221; &#8211; offered abortion for two of my children, children dearer than my own life, this really resonates with me.  </p>
<p>In my case, it wasn&#8217;t even a permanent condition that made the MFM offer it, just a very high-risk pregnancy. I&#8217;m not sure that makes it worse, but it seems like the slope is getting slipperier; it seems like the current philosophy is that anything less than ideal is to be avoided, rather than undertaken with a good heart.</p>
<p>Especially powerful was your point than none of the children with DS who were aborted were cured. What is presented as a cure is actually its opposite. It&#8217;s a very powerful point and I appreciate your making it.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;What Happens When You&#8217;re Told&#8230;You Shouldn&#8217;t Have Been Born?&#8221; &#171; Pastor Brett</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/you-shouldnt-have-been-born-caleb-jones/#comment-3913</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;What Happens When You&#8217;re Told&#8230;You Shouldn&#8217;t Have Been Born?&#8221; &#171; Pastor Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] heartfelt post about the new era of abortion we have entered, written by one who would be aborted [...]</description>
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