Comments on: The Myth of Islamic Tolerance http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/the-myth-of-islamic-tolerance/ A First Things Blog Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:35:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Nicodemus http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/the-myth-of-islamic-tolerance/#comment-4579 Nicodemus Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:30:11 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/?p=2840#comment-4579 I would recommend the Hudson Institute's monogram entitled, http://www.currenttrends.org/docLib/20091110_IntheShadowsoftheKoran.pdf In the Shadows of the Koran: Said Qutb’s Views on Jews and Christians as Reflected in his Koran Commentary by MICHAEL EBSTEIN Michael Ebstein says that Said Qutb's influence among Islamic fundamentalist movements of the modern era is profound and so this is well worth a read. The role of "dhimma" is particularly enlightening in the context of this blog article.For those interested the address is above but I am also reviewing it slowly on my blog and it can be found in my section under the label "Islam" on the right. What I am particularly interested in is what can be done about all this that is constructive and helpful for the cause of peace, or can there be any peace? I would recommend the Hudson Institute’s monogram entitled,

http://www.currenttrends.org/docLib/20091110_IntheShadowsoftheKoran.pdf

In the Shadows
of the Koran: Said
Qutb’s Views on
Jews and Christians
as Reflected in his
Koran Commentary
by MICHAEL EBSTEIN

Michael Ebstein says that Said Qutb’s influence among Islamic fundamentalist movements of the modern era is profound and so this is well worth a read. The role of “dhimma” is particularly enlightening in the context of this blog article.For those interested the address is above but I am also reviewing it slowly on my blog and it can be found in my section under the label “Islam” on the right.

What I am particularly interested in is what can be done about all this that is constructive and helpful for the cause of peace, or can there be any peace?

]]> By: Daryl Little http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/the-myth-of-islamic-tolerance/#comment-4532 Daryl Little Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:01:16 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/?p=2840#comment-4532 I think it's a stretch to say that "holy war" stopped being legitimate at Judges 2, but certainly it's out of bounds since God stopped telling us what to do on a given day. I like what Coyle said. It really boils down to the fact that in Christianity, it's those who are truly being (or trying to be) faithful to Scripture who repudiate violence as a means of advancing the Kingdom. In Islam, it's those who are trying to be faithful to their "Scripture" who embrace violence as a (primary) means of advancing their kingdom. I think it’s a stretch to say that “holy war” stopped being legitimate at Judges 2, but certainly it’s out of bounds since God stopped telling us what to do on a given day.

I like what Coyle said. It really boils down to the fact that in Christianity, it’s those who are truly being (or trying to be) faithful to Scripture who repudiate violence as a means of advancing the Kingdom. In Islam, it’s those who are trying to be faithful to their “Scripture” who embrace violence as a (primary) means of advancing their kingdom.

]]> By: Gary Simmons http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/the-myth-of-islamic-tolerance/#comment-4521 Gary Simmons Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:19:59 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/?p=2840#comment-4521 There's not much in the actions of Jesus that are inherently violent. Does God use violence in Christian belief? Yes. Did God ever call His followers to go to war? Only in the context of the covenant of Genesis 12. Unless it's the conquest of Canaan, it's not valid. That holy war was a unique event not to be repeated as a "tradition." The "tradition" stopped in Judges 2. There’s not much in the actions of Jesus that are inherently violent.

Does God use violence in Christian belief? Yes. Did God ever call His followers to go to war? Only in the context of the covenant of Genesis 12. Unless it’s the conquest of Canaan, it’s not valid. That holy war was a unique event not to be repeated as a “tradition.” The “tradition” stopped in Judges 2.

]]> By: Coyle http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/the-myth-of-islamic-tolerance/#comment-4510 Coyle Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:58:23 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/?p=2840#comment-4510 I think this might be an apt comparison: Islam is to tolerance what Christianity is to violence. You can squeeze it out of their central texts (people certainly have historically), but you have to work to do it, and it never lasts long or ends well... I think this might be an apt comparison: Islam is to tolerance what Christianity is to violence. You can squeeze it out of their central texts (people certainly have historically), but you have to work to do it, and it never lasts long or ends well…

]]> By: Blue Collar Todd http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/12/the-myth-of-islamic-tolerance/#comment-4504 Blue Collar Todd Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:02:58 +0000 http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/?p=2840#comment-4504 People also fail to understand that Islam, and therefore Muslims, reject any distinction between the Mosque and the State. It is a Totalitarian world view that wants to impose Shariah Law on a global scale. Also, the Liberal appeasement of Islam is a danger to Democracy. When <b><a href="http://whyimnotademocrat.blogspot.com/2009/06/update-feminists-support-hijab-and.html" rel="nofollow">feminists</a></b> defend the wearing of the burka, something has gone terribly wrong. People also fail to understand that Islam, and therefore Muslims, reject any distinction between the Mosque and the State. It is a Totalitarian world view that wants to impose Shariah Law on a global scale. Also, the Liberal appeasement of Islam is a danger to Democracy. When feminists defend the wearing of the burka, something has gone terribly wrong.

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