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	<title>Comments on: Steps in American History</title>
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		<title>By: Collin Brendemuehl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collin Brendemuehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert,
While classic liberalism really does not exist any longer, nor can it ever come back to life, the princple of personal economic and moral responsibility remains as its high post, ala Adam Smith.  Yes, many of the classic position are contrary to Christian theology, but (imnsho) Christianity is not a governmental solution and can survive nicely under any system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert,<br />
While classic liberalism really does not exist any longer, nor can it ever come back to life, the princple of personal economic and moral responsibility remains as its high post, ala Adam Smith.  Yes, many of the classic position are contrary to Christian theology, but (imnsho) Christianity is not a governmental solution and can survive nicely under any system.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/11/steps-in-american-history/#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collin, your strong words are on-target (and my guess is those uncertain whether such forcefulness is justified need only wait and pay attention to the abuses of power).  

I do not believe, however, that classical liberalism merits our hope, founded on individualistic and ultimately false Enlightenment anthropologies as it is.  By aiming towards the cultivation of Autonomous Man and stripping him of his fundamental relationality and embeddedness in communities prior to the modern State, such anthropologies open the door to dependence on the only legitimate &quot;community&quot; in liberalism (whether progressive or classical): the State, which is legitimate above all because it has Power to control and manage autonomous individuals by imposing its supposedly non-moral &quot;pragmatic&quot; designs.

But you likely have a different understanding of classical liberalism than I.  

A better, trinitarian approach, in my view, would be a true &lt;i&gt;conservatism&lt;/i&gt;--rather than a classical, i.e. conservative &lt;i&gt;liberalism&lt;/i&gt;--which recognizes a prior relational order in creation in which man participates not as a creature that primarily Wills or Reasons, but as a creature that fundamentally Loves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collin, your strong words are on-target (and my guess is those uncertain whether such forcefulness is justified need only wait and pay attention to the abuses of power).  </p>
<p>I do not believe, however, that classical liberalism merits our hope, founded on individualistic and ultimately false Enlightenment anthropologies as it is.  By aiming towards the cultivation of Autonomous Man and stripping him of his fundamental relationality and embeddedness in communities prior to the modern State, such anthropologies open the door to dependence on the only legitimate &#8220;community&#8221; in liberalism (whether progressive or classical): the State, which is legitimate above all because it has Power to control and manage autonomous individuals by imposing its supposedly non-moral &#8220;pragmatic&#8221; designs.</p>
<p>But you likely have a different understanding of classical liberalism than I.  </p>
<p>A better, trinitarian approach, in my view, would be a true <i>conservatism</i>&#8211;rather than a classical, i.e. conservative <i>liberalism</i>&#8211;which recognizes a prior relational order in creation in which man participates not as a creature that primarily Wills or Reasons, but as a creature that fundamentally Loves.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/11/steps-in-american-history/#comment-1689</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collin,

I like your rhetoric.  Seriously.  I do.  You call a spade a spade.  In today&#039;s climate calling a spade a spade qualifies for a medal of honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collin,</p>
<p>I like your rhetoric.  Seriously.  I do.  You call a spade a spade.  In today&#8217;s climate calling a spade a spade qualifies for a medal of honor.</p>
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