Think about this with me: imagine Zig Ziglar (whom I like and respect, btw) was taken to court and was told, “Zig, your books and tapes have helped some people, but they have actually hurt a lot of people by giving them false hope. Those people have filed a class-action suit against you, and we can’t calculate the damages because they run so high — so the court is handing down this decision: either shut down your fraudulent scam company and take all your books off the market, or receive the death penalty as punishment for more than $100 trillion in damages.”
You think Zig would take the death penalty? Personally, I don’t think Zig would take the death penalty. I think he’d make a fine speech and then shut his company down because frankly his company is not worth dying for. There’s not that much at stake.
In that, I think we have to come to grips with something in the Gospel: it is not about how we achieve anything. It’s not a how-to manual — except maybe a how-to make the world hate you and to receive persecution for loving God. If you think the Gospel is about how you get anything, I think you are overlooking what the problem is.
The problem is that your “getting” causes you to get condemnation because you inherently want the wrong things. Instead of wanting God and His blessings, for example, you want to be “like God” — that seems like a good thing to you, to know the difference between good and evil and be God’s peer rather than His created servant — and you then disobey God in order to somehow become “like” Him.
The Gospel is not how you “get” anything. It is how you are therefore gotten out of sin. See: it is right to say in one respect that this means we are saved out of death. But in a very real way, it also means we are saved into death.
We are saved into Christ’s death, which looks pretty good, right? He died so we don’t have to die in punishment for what we have done. That’s the great exchange.
But here’s the kicker, according to Paul:
Yes, and I will rejoice, for I know that through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance, as it is my eager expectation and hope that I will not be at all ashamed, but that with full courage now as always Christ will be honored in my body, whether by life or by death. For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
To die is gain.
Somehow, we have to be willing to die for the Gospel.
That’s an interesting place for a guy who is preaching Good News to wind up, isn’t it? That death is frankly something which a Christian can look forward to? Because he also says to Timothy:
You then, my child, be strengthened by the grace that is in Christ Jesus, and what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.…Remember Jesus Christ, risen from the dead, the offspring of David, as preached in my gospel, for which I am suffering, bound with chains as a criminal. But the word of God is not bound! Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.The saying is trustworthy, for:
If we have died with him,
we will also live with him;
if we endure,
we will also reign with him;if we deny him,
he also will deny us;
if we are faithless,
he remains faithfulfor he cannot deny himself.
Paul says that the Gospel is worth enduring hard things, even up to an including death — because death is not a defeat after Christ’s resurrection.
In that, it’s right to die a little in order to tell people the truth. In the little part of 2 Timothy I dropped out, Paul says he does these things for the sake of the elect, which is his way of saying, for those to whom it will matter.
You know: not to make sure everyone reaches their full potential, or that they find ways to develop and unleash personal and organizational creativity, uniqueness, innovation and diversity. The Gospel is there so that death doesn’t swallow us up while we are creating environments that expand imagination, unleash creativity, and maximize the creative potential in every individual and organization.
It’s actually cruel and stupid to make people feel really good about what they are doing right now if what they are doing right now is creatively dancing in an ornate auditorium that has a very wide entrance and a singular exit in Hell.

November 1st, 2009 | 11:00 am | #1
Please forward the names of the members of the class, and I will happy to take this case on a contingency fee. (Disclaimer: The preceding sentence was made in jest. No one can reasonable rely on the statement as an offer, solicitation, or even as aquasi-serious statement – even made tongue in cheek. I did not intend to form, nor can it be inferred, that any attorney client relationship was formed. If you have a legal need, please find an attorney in your community.)
Just as a tiny comment, I can reasonably imagine someone who would take the death penalty. Someone who was advanced in years and wanted to transfer quite of bit of wealth to his family and was at risk of losing his fortune. In this case, the motivation would probably be to die so that his family would be able to pay for college, etc. If someone were to take such an offer (the option of death) wouldn’t it be assisted suicide? Or wouldn’t it at least be construed as selling parts (or all) of your body to the state for a sum of money and assets that are, by law, owed to the class of harmed?
Comment as to content:
A la Psalm 115, the dead cannot sing praises, but we (those in Christ – theological position taken) will from this time forth and forever more praise him. Why, because death does not mean death. Paul says it is gain to die. He is not referring to death death. But to the particular first death, perhaps. His mind is conscious of “from this time forth and forever more.” Otherwise, dying would not be gain. The equivocation potential is huge. Nevertheless, if what we believe is true, then bring it. I wish my faith were thoroughly systemic. I would prefer to play at the park with my children today.
November 1st, 2009 | 1:06 pm | #2
Frank, is it not right to say that getting “gotten out of sin” is only half of what is achieved at the cross and preached in the gospel? In my understanding, Christ’s death gets us “out of sin” by substitutionary atonement, and His perfect life then gets us “into righteousness” by imputation of His perfect obedience.
November 1st, 2009 | 3:58 pm | #3
Jeffery,
I wonder if you couldn’t argue that they are, in one sense, one and the same.
That is, elimination of sin isn’t enough to gain entrance into God’s presence. Perfect righteousness is.
So we’re not really free of sin, until the sin has been eliminated (the cross) AND replaced (the resurrection.
Just a thought.
November 1st, 2009 | 4:12 pm | #4
Jeff –
I would agree with your clarification; there are other things which might rightly be included there — like our adoption as sons, the propitation before God, the new birth. It was an omission by short-cut and not a systematic omission. The point is that you aren’t the one doing the getting — you are the one who is gotten, and God is the one who does the getting.
November 2nd, 2009 | 4:27 pm | #5
Frank,
Do y’all mean the difference between receiving and retrieving?
We “get” them in the passive, receiving sense, but we don’t “get” them in the active, retrieving sense?
November 2nd, 2009 | 5:12 pm | #6
Is it okay to want to be saved?
November 2nd, 2009 | 5:15 pm | #7
Jugulum –
Of course the word “get” has several meanings in English, and I have made word-play on that. this is blogging after all and not a dissertation for my Ph.D. in theology.
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Ortho-dj –
Yup. It’s actually necessary.
November 2nd, 2009 | 5:50 pm | #8
Frank,
Sure. Just checking if that’s another valid way to express Jeff’s clarification.
November 3rd, 2009 | 1:25 am | #9
Frank wrote: “It’s actually cruel and stupid to make people feel really good about what they are doing right now if what they are doing right now is creatively dancing in an ornate auditorium that has a very wide entrance and a singular exit in Hell.”
And you “respect” Zig Ziglar because…?
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