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	<title>Comments on: The Rosetta Stone of Evangelicalese Has Been Cracked</title>
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		<title>By: Raymond Takashi Swenson</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/10/the-rosetta-stone-of-evangelicalese-has-been-cracked/#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Takashi Swenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The language of what is heartfelt is totally appropriate in the context of religious discourse.  The problem is the mixing of religious discourse and political discourse in the service of political ends.

I think it is fully appropriate to use religious discourse in a religious context to articulate a position that represents a religious believer&#039;s viewpoint in the public policy marketplace.  That is the case with discussion among fellow religious believers about abortion policy, and same sex marriage policy, and religious freedom policy.  This is encouragement of active participation in democracy. 

What I find objectionable is the subversion of religious language in the service of political power.  It is essentially a personal claim to prophetic, even messianic, authority.  It is an assertion of self as being closer to God, rather than humility before God. 

That is why I am offended by the language used by President Obama, when he told us that we are wealthy sinners if we do not volunteer to be our brothers&#039; keepers by supporting Federal control of health care.  He is claiming to enlist the authority of scripture in support of a messy political compromise whose specific contents are still being tossed around like a bad hash.  

&quot;My brother&#039;s keeper&quot; was not the commandment of God, but the sarcastic rejoinder of Cain when he lied about knowing the whereabouts of his murdered brother. God never told Cain, or Adam, or Abraham or Moses, that we must each be in control of our brothers, as we would with our sheep, controlling when they go in or out and where they go.  Loving our neighbors, the real command, does not mean doing for them what they can do for themselves and their own families.  But the profession that Cain derided is what Obama aspires to:  He would be our keeper, in charge of us, caring for us, and keeping us from organizing our own herds and caring for ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The language of what is heartfelt is totally appropriate in the context of religious discourse.  The problem is the mixing of religious discourse and political discourse in the service of political ends.</p>
<p>I think it is fully appropriate to use religious discourse in a religious context to articulate a position that represents a religious believer&#8217;s viewpoint in the public policy marketplace.  That is the case with discussion among fellow religious believers about abortion policy, and same sex marriage policy, and religious freedom policy.  This is encouragement of active participation in democracy. </p>
<p>What I find objectionable is the subversion of religious language in the service of political power.  It is essentially a personal claim to prophetic, even messianic, authority.  It is an assertion of self as being closer to God, rather than humility before God. </p>
<p>That is why I am offended by the language used by President Obama, when he told us that we are wealthy sinners if we do not volunteer to be our brothers&#8217; keepers by supporting Federal control of health care.  He is claiming to enlist the authority of scripture in support of a messy political compromise whose specific contents are still being tossed around like a bad hash.  </p>
<p>&#8220;My brother&#8217;s keeper&#8221; was not the commandment of God, but the sarcastic rejoinder of Cain when he lied about knowing the whereabouts of his murdered brother. God never told Cain, or Adam, or Abraham or Moses, that we must each be in control of our brothers, as we would with our sheep, controlling when they go in or out and where they go.  Loving our neighbors, the real command, does not mean doing for them what they can do for themselves and their own families.  But the profession that Cain derided is what Obama aspires to:  He would be our keeper, in charge of us, caring for us, and keeping us from organizing our own herds and caring for ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Article VI Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who&#8217;s Running For What &#8211; Evangelical News &#8211; and more&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Article VI Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who&#8217;s Running For What &#8211; Evangelical News &#8211; and more&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And one of the participants there struck right at what is to this observe, the heart of the matter. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/10/the-rosetta-stone-of-evangelicalese-has-been-cracked/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel led to serve you all kool-aid.</description>
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		<title>By: iMark - Mark Lamprecht</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/10/the-rosetta-stone-of-evangelicalese-has-been-cracked/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>iMark - Mark Lamprecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so true. It also seems that believers can do this to each other in what could appear to be manipulation.

It might not be manipulation on purpose. When someone uses the &quot;I feel led&quot; or &quot;God told me&quot; language without further discernment, how is an answer given? Especially, when it is geared toward a decision to be made, teaching, etc. It leaves little room for reconsideration and disagreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true. It also seems that believers can do this to each other in what could appear to be manipulation.</p>
<p>It might not be manipulation on purpose. When someone uses the &#8220;I feel led&#8221; or &#8220;God told me&#8221; language without further discernment, how is an answer given? Especially, when it is geared toward a decision to be made, teaching, etc. It leaves little room for reconsideration and disagreement.</p>
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		<title>By: iMonk</title>
		<link>http://firstthings.com/blogs/evangel/2009/10/the-rosetta-stone-of-evangelicalese-has-been-cracked/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>iMonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve interviewed Tarrico at IM and will again. An atheistic voice with some good advice we should listen to.</description>
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		<title>By: Rod Blaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re missing the point. It shows a problem, not so much with political campaigners who go through this unlocked door, but with voters who leave it unlocked. Too often, evangelicals are suckers for public figures who use the correct lingo - Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George Bush, and even Ronald Reagan, who unlike the other three was not even an Evangelical in any meaningful sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re missing the point. It shows a problem, not so much with political campaigners who go through this unlocked door, but with voters who leave it unlocked. Too often, evangelicals are suckers for public figures who use the correct lingo &#8211; Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George Bush, and even Ronald Reagan, who unlike the other three was not even an Evangelical in any meaningful sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The advice in the playbook is eerily accurate.  It&#039;s sad to think how many believers would blindly accept anything promoted by a politician who combined Tarico&#039;s advice and a bit of moralist polish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advice in the playbook is eerily accurate.  It&#8217;s sad to think how many believers would blindly accept anything promoted by a politician who combined Tarico&#8217;s advice and a bit of moralist polish.</p>
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